Posted by: Rich () on Thu Oct 16 20:41:56 2003

>>> Jack the front shoulder is driven by the hands, whether they go linear or rotational. It's when the front shoulder leads that creates the problems. <<<
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> > > Hi Coach C
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> > > How far would you say the hands move before they start driving the shoulder?
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> > > Jack Mankin
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> > > Sounds like a leading question as it's impossible for the hands to physically drive the shoulders. it's exactly the other way around. get out your kinesiology book. end of discussion. next question?
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> Geez.....thanks Rich.....I got out my kinesiology book and you are exactly right it's impossible. I'm going to read that book further and see how long it takes for me to ruin my swing......I'm guessing first session.
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> The next question for you is this...when you look at Sandman's boy swing....what is right about the swing and what is wrong in your mind.
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> Clearly he is hips, shoulders, hands just like the book says...do you agree?
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> What sound advice would you have for that boy and everyone else participating in the discussion? Feel free to use your book if you want.
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> Coach C
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> Coach C,
I just reread my post and want to apologize for what seems to me now as a curt last two sentences. what got me involved in this discussion was the reference to lagging hands and quite torso. i like lagging hands, but despise a quite torso. what i really like and teach is a smooth, loose(relaxed as you say) ever accelerating swing.
to me lagging the hands is keeping the lead arm barred to the chest. if it's not lagging it's not barred and in turn not connected to power of the torso... i can't view the clip so i can't comment on sandman's son, sorry. i enjoy your calmness and humor, thanks, rich