Posted by: ray porco () on Mon Apr 26 22:07:17 2004

>>> Hello,
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> In the interests of trying to understand/comprehend/grasp what you are trying to reveal/convey/impart, I have once again reviewed just about all that you have posted on hitting an outside pitch. Please bear with me, as I’m trying to solve the problem - an articulation / comprehension gaffe. Unless of course, you feel that I am 100% at fault for not understanding. In which case, disregard the rest of what I am about to write - for then there is truly nothing either one of us can do. If you think that there is no one else out there like me (unable to understand you) then you are doing a great injustice to your readers. If you can honestly tell me that you share absolutely no responsibility in my not understanding what you are trying to convey, then conduct a poll of your REGULAR readers/posters (you know who they are) and if they agree with you, I will never post here again.
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> Our disagreement could, - no, does - , hinge on my capacity to grasp your verbalization of a physical act.
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> What we have here is a failure to communicate.
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> The communication is further exasperated by the fact that we are not communicating verbally, but by written word. And further, by written word without the aid of visual support.
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> Again, I’m trying to solve the problem.
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> There is more than one solution. One is a clarification of terms used, of defining verbs used.
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> Cast vs. extend, for instance.
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> Referring to hitting the outside pitch:
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> >“The great hitters can successfully pull outside pitches because they do not extend the hands as they initiate the swing.”<
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> >“As you rotate toward the 65-degree position the lead-arm will cast farther from the chest.”<
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> The problem here (at least as I see it) is that you are describing what is happening to the hands not extending, yet the lead-arm casting.
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> Can you explain to me the difference between casting and extending according to Mankin?
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> Does the lead arm ____ and the rear arm ______? <<<
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> Hi Ray
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> I agree that we may have a problem communicating with the written word. We could very well place different meanings on the same terms. In order for me to give you my best answer to your question, I will need to understand what meaning you place to the terms in your questions “casting” and “extending.” Once I can discern the connotations you place on the two terms, then I can point out the differences as I define them.
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> Please give as much explanation for your definitions as possible. We certainly do not want another failure to communicate.
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> (1) “Casting”
> (2) “Extending”
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> Jack Mankin
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Jack,

the question was:

>>>Can you explain to me the difference between casting and extending according to Mankin?<<<

and your response was:

>>>In order for me to give you my best answer to your question, I will need to understand what meaning you place to the terms in your questions “casting” and “extending.”<<<


Ya see what I mean. Being frank, not disrespectful, you have not answered the question. You are the one using the terms (cast and extend), and you want me to tell you, what you mean.


>>>In order for me to give you my best answer to your question, I will need to understand what meaning you place to the terms in your questions “casting” and “extending.”<<<


You know what I think? I’m getting tired. I’m so tired of not getting questions answered. You know what I think? I think every time you ask me a question, I answer it (check all the posts back to 2000). Every time you ask me to “…give as much detail as possible”, I do (i.e. top hand wrist thread - on Sat Apr 10 11:05:53 2004).

I give up, you’d rather counter-punch, here’s your answer:

To cast -
To throw off or away
To cause to move or send forth by throwing
To fling
To launch
To sling
To thrust

To extend-
To stretch
To lengthen
To reach outward in space
To open or straighten out, unbend
To cause to be longer
To thrust

THE LEAD ARM CASTS AND THE REAR ARM EXTENDS.

Place a ball on a tee at the front edge of the plate - dead center and then assume a normal stance (a foot position so as to have the bat’s sweet spot make contact with the ball’s sweet spot and to drive the ball to center field). If you could somehow manage to mark the point in space where the hands are at contact, then move the tee to the outside (in the black) edge of the plate. With your feet in the original normal position, place the bat’s sweet spot on the ball’s sweet spot so as to drive the ball to center field and mark this second point in space where the hands are at contact. The hands had to EXTEND from the one point to the other. Whatever method you use to get them out further ( you can EXTEND ALONG A CIRCLE, AS WELL AS EXTEND ALONG A STRAIGHT LINE), the point is that they have extended from one point to the other (REACHED OUTWARD IN SPACE) to reach the ball. And if you note the hand’s position from the center plate position to the outside plate position you will see that in the outside plate position the hands are FURTHER AWAY FROM THE SWING AXIS. They are STRETCHED, LENGTHENED, CAUSED TO BE LONGER from the original position. They are extended. Also note that the rear arm has straightened (has OPENED OR STRAIGHTENED OUT), has caused the elbow to UNBEND.


ray porco