Posted by: Bart () on Tue Jun 17 19:09:53 2003

I fixed a problem in my swing last year- I
> wasn't turning my hips hardly at all. A coach
> told me to "squash the bug", so I started to
> turn (more). When I found this site., I started
> to think I might be turning them too late.
>
> From watching the frame-by-frame swing on
> the "mechanics" pages, it looks to me like the
> hips are all the way open by frame #C. Isn't
> that early, compared to the text about ?
>
> Another post deep in the archives says the
> hips should lead the shoulders by about 30
> degrees; you don't want to have that
> three-stage, stride-then-hips-then-shoulders
> segmented thing going on. But sure looks to
> me like this sketch guy has more than 30
> degrees going on between his hips and
> shoulders.
>
> I ask because I want to know- how do I know
> the proper time to open the hips? I think I had
> been doing it too late (so I'd end up finishing
> in about the right position, if a bit
> McGriff-helicopter-swing-ish), but now I'm
> worried I'm doing it too early, and I'll pop
> everything weakly to right that I don't miss
> completely. How would I know if I do it too
> soon?
>
> Mike

A major element is bat cock...in general, the more bat cock the more the hips will bi open at "torque position". However, if you are not familiar with Epstein's "torque position" & my prior analysis of bat cock & it's relationship to launch position, torque position, etc, this may very well not make much sense.