Posted by: Joe A. () on Sat Sep 15 16:32:55 2001

Jack,
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> > > I think you are alittle confused about why the hips are turned first. Ture, they do turn the sholders. If the swing moves from the bottom up then they hips must move before the shoulders. This is a very superficial observation.
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> > > More complicated there are three addtional reasons for hip roation.
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> > > 1. It creates the beining of bat speed. Its the fundemental speed that the rest of the swing adds to. Think of it this way if you are moving on a train at 60 mph and you throw a ball in the direction you are moving at 60 mph the ball is moving at 120 mph. The hips creates the speed that the shoulders, arms and hands adds too.
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> > > 2. turning the hips creates a "pull" forward so that the bat is pulled on a flatter plane. Other wise the bat would remain on a downward path rather then through the ball. Think of it as similar to the golf swing, If you dont get your weight over to the left side and pull the swing forward the doward path of the club will cause the club head to be driven into the groud.
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> > > 3. Turning your hips pulls the hands inside and prevents casting
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> > > 4. turning the hips starts the swing with the large more poerful and easier to control muscles of the legs and back.
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> > > I hope this helps
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> > > Joe A.
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> > > P. S. I think you should correct the errors and contradictions in the frame by frame.
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> Hi all
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> We all understand the importance of hip rotation.
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> However, Joe is again preaching to the choir as we are all too familiar with. As for your comment Joe, "P. S. I think you should correct the errors and contradictions in the frame by frame." You should direct your comments to the famous professional hitters whose mechanics are depicted in the frame-by-frame, I only traced them.
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> Jack Mankin
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> PS: To those new to the site -- Joe A, and all of the alias' he has used, claims to be a teacher and baseball coach - review his post and draw your own conclusions. Obviously, some comments on this board need to be taken with a grain of sand.

Jack,

I have used the names Joe B and Joe A. and have always used language that lets people know its Joe A. Its a joke. There hare others who use Joe A. but I dont really care so I never pointed it out.

About the frame by frame. Do the "famous hitters' you spoke about also write the text? Thats where the erros are, in the text. I have already told you that the frame by frame is of no use. It changes perspective in the middle or it looks like it does which is the same thing. It also had no shading which takes away depth perception making it of no value. Hey, but if its good enough for you, fine.

An example of the errors in the text of the Frame #1 is the first bullet. It says that the "hips, torso and shouders start their rotation around an axis"

This is clearly meaning all at the same time. No where does the text say hips first. If you are "aware of the important of hip rotation" why did you lump in in with the torso and shoulders, underlining shoulders?

Hips first is an important part of the swing and this statement is wrong.

I wont get into the other errors.

The real Joe A.
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