Posted by: rahkling7 () on Sat Aug 25 15:27:22 2001

if you hadn't you would have written a response to my orginal three questions because they are so damaging to your theories. You haven't responded because you ALREADY have and you have shown your TRUE colors!

I KNOW your position on the grip HENCE my question regarding Jimmie FOXX!!!!!!!! The video is about your system NOT about how jack holds the bat when HE hits!You used an alias and what you now you are claiming not to be an "anonymous" post that attacked me personally in hopes I would just run and hide in the weeds. I started cooking and did so in a respective and professional manner but the oven is being turned up to 450 now so if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen!

While we are on top hand torque you totally miss the reason that those batters mentioned in the video exhibit that bat cock. NO batter is pushing that top hand back. That is an incredible complex move AWAY from the directon the pitch is coming. In the space of milli-seconds you suggest the top hand is to push away against the tension of the bottom hand and then reverse direction, in essence, as the pivot around a stationary axis occurs. After this initial hand pressure the hands are suddenly to STOP putting on pressure in and of themselves and OAR lock in and let the stationary move long an axis take over. NO WAY! Do you really know why those batters mentioned cock the bat back toward the direction of the pitch? BECAUSE A LONGER ARC PRODUCES GREATER BAT SPEED! Need proof? Look at the golf swing of John Daley... way past parallel or Tiger Woods who sweeps the club away LOW from the ball thereby producing a longer arc without going past parallel at the top. The longer the arc the greater the speed at the end of that arc! Another prominant instructor (whos theory I dont necessarily subscribe to) has stated publicly VERY few major leaguers understand what they are doing up there. NEVER a more true word said.. they FEEL it! I guarantee you that none of those pros you mentioned in the video have the faintest idea of pushing that bat back toward the catcher WITH the top hand providing the force. Torque IS produced in the manner you suggest at that point in the swing but its NOT because the top hand is CONSCIOUSLY pushing back towards the catcher. It is because the pivot around the stationary axis CAUSES the torque to be produced by the hands! It is only as a result of the hands being connected to the arms being connected to the shoulders etc etc.

Further observations regarding contact: You say in the video that once everything is right and the swing has begun everything else is on "AUTOMATIC". YOU also say that the hands are much like "OAR locks". Once that FIRST move occurs around a stationary axis the plane is locked in! NO WAY a process like that doesn't SIGNIFICANTLY diminish chances of contact. My observation is born out: The barrel of the bat is merely slung in the general direction of the path of the ball and we HOPE for contact! Why dont you tape that guy up again and let him see how many balls he can hit from a pitching machine that will throw balls into the strike zone. Even with the CONSISTANCY provided by the machine (imagine batting against a live pitcher!) he will have trouble making contact. Why?.... because he is DEPRIVED OF ANY LINEAR MOTION OF THE HANDS!.... a requirement for consistant contact.

OAR (no pun intended) why dont you rig a contraption, saw off the paddle, and see if you can hit any moving object with a piece of wood in an oar lock. It can't be done.. because you are deprived of the ability to push/direct (apply linear motion), whatever you want to call it, the barrel of the bat at the ball. The VERY first move of the hands in this scenario LOCKS IN the path of the OAR!

jack you have spent a lot of time on your system. It is understandable to be defensive about it... obnoxious is another thing. You are absolutely correct in that rotational mechanics applies incredible power and increases batspeed and it is ground breaking in many respects. I also find the simplicity of your system's foot and leg movement intruiging. HOWEVER, you MUST realize that you are dealing with DREAMS! I ask you seriously consider the impact of your system has on the chances for contact. No player will make it to the big leagues hitting 200 in the minors... no matter how many "taters" he hits. Even Big Mac cant stay in the line up when all he does is either strike out or hit a HR! Personally, I would rather work my whole life on a project and find it to be wrong than destroy the hopes and dreams of ONE child!


>>> Even jack admitted that he was "a better hitter" when he held the bat tight. Holding the bat tight is a component of a LINEAR system <<<
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> Hi Rahkling7
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> You still persist in associating me to a post I never wrote. Everyone who has studied my work knows I would never state that I was "a better hitter" when I held the bat tight. A bat gripped tight (especially the top-hand) causes many problems for hitters who use top-hand-torque and similar mechanics.--- If you had studied and understood the material in the video, as you said you did, you would know my position on the “grip.”
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> Jack Mankin
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