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Re: Re: not much has changed


Posted by: Zig Ziegler (zigz@motiondancorp.com) on Sat Jul 29 14:28:11 2006


Brian,

Calm down. there is no need to make this heated. I am merely trying to state the facts not opinion. As is the case in research, data is compiled and compared, highs and lows are thrown out and the averages are considered.

We studied bat acceleration and deceleration throughout the entire swing, something that is not possible for you to see nor comprehend with the naked eye or video. allow me to make one correction, the 50,000 swings were collected and review by myself and my staff of 23 technicians over the past 4 years and a minimum of 10 minutes (actually) was spent studying the core mechanics and yes you are correct that there are some consistent or core traits that are similar, but if I take a 16 year old kid who has poor balance and strength, can I teach that kid the same swing as the 16 year old who has good balance and strength. Will they progress at the same rate, Brian, even you have to admit that the answer is no, so while I expect some resistance, from you and a few others here, take a moment to look at the truth, not opinion.

Can you tell me exactly how much power a hitter loses if they fail to properly execute your swing. can you tell me the exact length of their swing plane through the hitting zone? can you tell me the bat speed at impact and 1/240th of a second after impact. If you can, I want to hire you and pay you millions of dollars, because you have the best eyes and perception in the world and we will make much more money away from baseball swings.

The answer to all of those questions is no, so I'll save you the time.

I completely understand the rotational swing and its components you describe here. I just don't believe that you do. Try throwing a ball without moving forward (not even one inch or centimeter. its not possible to do it with speed or power or accuracy. Try swing a bat without moving at all. Need help figuring out how to do it. Simple sit in a chair or better yet, sit on a stool. Even better, strap yourself to two poles, one directly in front and the other in back. you have to limit forward and backward movment. if you can swing a bat and stay in the hitting zone for at least 18 inches (which is what the best hitters do, then you win. But if not, stick around for a while and I will teach you a few things. Send me an email and I will send you some data. And Supporting materials. Due to the sensitive nature of the swing data we collect I can't send you any professional players and identify them, but I will send you professional players swings without the identifying factors.

Dispute the data and you really don't care about the truth. Well I do and no I don't have a preconceived notion, it is what it is. If I could truly support your theroies completely, i would, I just thought I would help some of the other posters here who are looking for the truth.

With response to what the world teaches, if the greatest hitter in the world, swung a bat with his eyes closed and standing on one foot, would you teach that too? People succeed in spite of what we say or do. How many times has an athlete said, "I don't know if I'm doing what coach is saying, but 'm hitting and that's all that matters." And many others have said I do my own thing. And studying hours of video is to look for common flows and repeatable things in the players swings. MLB coaches don't change players swings, they are there for mental support, not teaching the swing.

And Brian, as a company made well over 7 figures last year and will reach 8 figures in 2007. If I had a book or video to sell, you could gladly accuse me of promoting my company. Your market is not ours. I just love the sport and challenging "fixed" thinking. Get outside of the box and let's work together to communicate the truth. I'm in...Are you? The truth for me lies in the body's ability to repeat the swing, not the swing itself.

Tom, I have to run out, I will answer your questions later today. Have a positive day yourself.

Zig Ziegler


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