Posted by: Jack Mankin (MrBatspeed@aol.com) on Sat May 28 16:44:38 2005

>>> Probably the two most crucial words in the above statement are the first two.

I have heard/read that statement (or in similar language) from you many times. In fact, going back to when I first came to your website. This is quite a statement. Extremely important and crucial to your teachings � this, ��slight change in how they initiate the swing.�

HOW this �slight change� is accomplished has also been described/written by you many times.

You have never PROVEN it. In all of your website, I cannot find any proof to support this claim. <<<

Hi Ray

If you do not believe (or understand) that a change in the direction of force applied by the top-hand (THT) during initiation produces different trajectories of the body, limbs and bat, I seriously doubt if there is �proof� you would believe or understand. In the past, you have not even accepted the fact that the application of torque at the handle is a factor in the bat�s trajectories.

Ray, if you still believe that torque is not a factor in generating bat speed, then not only is there no proof I can offer, there is not even a basis for further discussion. At http://www.batspeed.com/research10.html there is the following definition of torque taken from a high school physics book. -- �Torque is the result of two forces being applied to an object from opposing directions that cause the object to rotate about a point. �

So let us start there. Do you accept or reject what is stated at http://www.batspeed.com/research10.html?

Jack Mankin