Posted by: ray porco () on Thu Dec 30 10:50:44 2004

Jack,

As politely as I can be, while being directly contrary to you.
(please note that when I use capitalization it is for emphasis and not for yelling. There is no way to BOLD the words)

Your quote:
“However, as they take their stride and set up their launch position (shoulders ready to rotate), they all pull their hands toward the back-shoulder…”

Referencing:
Bagwell (1st row - 1st clip)
Williams (1st row - 3rd clip)
Jones (3rd row - 1st clip)
Glaus (4th row - 2nd clip)
Griffey (4th row - 3rd clip)
Mac (7th row - 1st clip)
Palmiero (8th row - 3rd clip)

No. 1 question.
Do you see these batters pulling their hands toward their back-shoulder AS THEY TAKE THEIR STRIDE?




Your quote:
“Also, the bat-head is accelerated a good distance before the back-elbow starts to lower.”

Bagwell (1st row - 1st clip)
Williams (1st row - 3rd clip)
Jones (3rd row - 1st clip)
Glaus (4th row - 2nd clip)
Griffey (4th row - 3rd clip)
Mac (7th row - 1st clip)
Palmiero (8th row - 3rd clip)

No. 2 question.
Do you see in the clips of these batters, the bat-head accelerated a good distance BEFORE the back-elbow starts to lower?




Bonds (2nd row - 1st clip)

No. 3 question.
Do you see that it could be possible for Bonds’ top hand thumb to be able to TOUCH his shoulder?



One final question:

Your quote:
“A key point to note – With all three batters, the bat head is being accelerated rearward from its forward cocked position without shoulder rotation or the lowering of the elbow. The acceleration was from the shoulder and forearm pulling the top-hand rearward.”


Question No. 4:
“Rearward” from what direction?


When you describe the direction of the bat head, this is not clear to me (as in at what exact point in the swing and from what direction to what direction)?

For example: In your above quote you say, “…accelerated rearward from its forward cocked position…”
If the cocked position is toward the pitcher, then rearward would be directly opposite, which is toward the catcher. I do not see the bathead moving toward the catcher, before the elbow lowers.
If there is any bat head movement (in the clips that I have referenced) in the first frames of rear elbow lowering, it is toward the first base dugout.
A good example is the Chipper Jones clip. PLEASE tell me what you see in that clip.

Perhaps if you would reference a 360 degree circle, with 0 degrees being the pitcher’s rubber. Please explain the bathead direction in which specific point of the swing (frame of the clip).


ray porco