Posted by: JLB (oz2009@verizon.net) on Mon May 12 11:51:26 2008

> Jack, per your suggestion, I looked at all 3 Neiman simulations and, finished with the A-Rod, Bonds clip, you posted back in 07.
> First off, I've never taken a physics class in my life so, I concede on that front. But, from one mans LAYMAN point of view, I'm just not seeing what you're seeing, regarding much force and, a word you used in that clip, "power", being generated from the bottom hand and, arm.
> You make a point to note the bottom arm elbow slotting up, precipitating, a large degree of pulling.But, the bottom arm elbow HAS to slot up to help accomodate the opposite ocorrence of the REAR shoulder, based in large part to pitch plane.The bottom arm doesn't do much and, shouldn't. It should be almost fixed to the rib cage area? I mean, where else is the bottom arm elbow suppose to go?
> It has to slot up. I certainly see and, understand the bottom hand and, connectors as pulling, they have to, in order to go along for
> the ride. I see the pull, I don't see the power.
> Now, this may sound like a foolhardy point but,and excluding hand dominance, if either of those two players had the choice to hit with only one arm, it's almost retorical, to ask which one would they prefer? To make the golf anology for the one millionth time, sure you get pull with the off hand but, the top hand is getting it near the green?
> Thanks for you patience in reading this Jack.

John,

Thanks for re-invigorating this board. If you follow the link below, you will find Tony Gwynn disecting Bond's swing and how the pulling of the bottom hand gives Bond the "pop" in his bat.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/gallery/bonds/flash.htm

JLB