Posted by: rql () on Sat Oct 23 19:03:51 2004

on defining "bow arch":
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> > pinch your nose, raise your voice two octaves, and say, "I'm just not going to give it to you."
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> > and on the other hand....
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> > "Hi Teacherman
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> > If you do have the knowledge and ability to define the term and are truly interested in advancing coaches’ and players’ understanding of the baseball swing, one can only speculate your reasons for keeping a clear definition of “bow-arch” behind closed doors.
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> > Jack Mankin"
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> > why do you call yourself - "teacherman"?
> > if your not going to tell us, then......
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> > take your ball and go home.
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> > ray porco
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> Give it up, bow arch is the same as top hand torque, flail is the same thing as bottom hand torque.The setpro people basically took Jack's top hand torque and bottom hand torque terms and renamed them. I guess that's their right, as I'm sure Jack doesn't have his terms trademarked. However, I do think they should at least have the decency to give Jack the credit for discovering the concepts of tht/bht. Of course Teacherman is not going to explain bow arch or flail, because to do so would be to repeat what Jack says about tht/bht, and therefore Teacherman would be admitting to a concept that he is not giving Jack credit for.

Ray I don't think bow arch is the same as tht.You can do bow arch without achieving tht.It has more to do with body posture,read my thread down below where it was being asked about,ToM Guerry replied ditto.