Posted by: Martin () on Sat Oct 16 13:33:12 2004

>>> See Flagellum.] 1. An instrument for threshing or beating grain from the ear by hand, consisting of a wooden staff or handle, at the end of which a stouter and shorter pole or club, called a swipe, is so hung as to swing freely. <<<
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> > Hi Manny & Hitter
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> > Webster’s definition of “Flail” is basically the same as above – “A free-swinging stick tied to the end of a long handle.” Hitter points out that the principle in the baseball swing is the sequential rotation of the bat around an axis. -- "The bat rotates in a flail-like fashion around axes formed by the left shoulder and the batter's wrists"
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> > Do you see a difference in the mechanical principle of a Flagellum and a bat swung with a “steering-wheel knob” attached at the handle? The lead-arm, “left shoulder to the batter's wrists,” would be the “long handle” and the bat would be the “stick.” The steering-wheel knob would allow the bat to “swing freely.”
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> > Jack Mankin
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> JACK, ARE YOU SAYING FLAIL IS THE SAME THING AS TOP HAND TORQUE? IF SO IM CONFUSED BECAUSE MANNY SAYS FLAIL IS LINEAR AND WE ALL ALREADY KNOW THAT FOR SURE TOP HAND TORQUE IS THE OPPOSITE OF LINEAR, THAT IS, THT IS ROTATIONAL.CLARIFICATION WOULD BE APPRECIATED. THANKS.

Jack, I THINK you are equating the flail stuff with the "whip" theory, and of course I know you do not believe in the crack the whip stuff. Am I right in interpreting your remarks? The bat is a rigid object unlike a towel or something so I don't see how it can be "whipped". And also I have a question: if as Teacherman says tht bow arch and flail are all the same thing, the only difference being a matter of terminology, but Manny says they are 3 different things, who is right? I am familiar with your background (Jack)but none of the guys on my team have ever heard of Teacherman or Manny.No disrespect intended for Teacherman or Manny, it's just that you (Jack) have a reputation (a good one at that)whereas the other two gentlemen are not known in this neck of the woods.Thank you Jack.