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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attn. Jack


Posted by: Dave A (oxagin@hotmail.com) on Fri Dec 19 12:17:16 2003


> > > > > Jack,
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> > > > > I've find this post one of your best. I have long felt that under a pressure situation that I would be more inclined to rely more on THT, and less on BHT. I find the swing plane is more consistant and adjustments to pitch location far easier with this particular swing. I don't know if this makes sense to you. I swing the bat like you swing that darn golf club quite frankly. A couple of questions for you:
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> > > > > Would you say that A-Rod and McGwire are more likely to hit the ball further in front, due to the wider swing arc?.
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> > > > > Due to the wider swing arc, do you believe there is any power loss or possibly more? Or put another way....which style has more batspeed prior to contact?
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> > > > > Additionally I have noticed that in batting practice I am much more aggressive with my swing, which sometimes has the trail hand pulling back so far that it often times brings the trail arm elbow further back before it returns to the side. However, in competion the move is much more under control. This is why I say for me...80% is a good feel. Is it that I'm 80% on the THT, but the rest of the swing is on auto-pilot?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Coach C
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > There is no questin that there is more batspeed with the wider arc. Problem is, it takes too long to get up to speed. Major league pitching requires a hitter to be quicker than the full extension swing allows. Therefore, most mlb hitters hit with the elbow slotted. We're back to the bat quickness v batspeed question.
> > > >
> > > > Mac and Griffey are a couple of the few mlb hitters that tried to get extension and remain rotational. Arod tries for extension but he's a combination of linear and rotational.
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> > > > High strike outs are one of the main problems with the extension swing.
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> > > > However, Mac did hit a few a long way.
> > >
> > > I feel much quicker with the extension model, but my question is it giving up batspeed.
> > >
> > > I do not think A-Rod is linear, in fact I consider him as good a rotational hitter as there is...High average, High Power, High OB%, etc....this could not be done with linear mechanics at all in my opinion. The big key is his top hand pulls back, which engages the front side for the rotational swing. Do you believe he's linear because he goes to the ball?
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> > >
> > > Coach C
> >
> > There are two components to linear. Upper half and lower half. His lower half is rotational, his upper half is linear. Any time the hands go to the ball with the use of the arms it's linear. Many rotational hitters make linear adjustments for pitch location and off speed. But it is just adjusements, it's not their "good" swing. However, Arod does it all the time. It is his "good" swing. Therefore he's a comination of linear and rotational.
> >
> > And, it's physically impossible for you to be quicker with an arm extension swing.
> >
> > A red ball is on a 3' string and swinging in a circular path around an axis which is turning at 30mph. A blue ball is on a 6' string and swinging in a circular path around an axis that is turning at 30mph. Which ball is moving faster?
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> Lamber,
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> I know you are being helpful and I appreciate it. However, you and I see things differently in A-rod and I'll just agree to disagree.
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> Respectfully,
>
> Coach C

I think we can all agree ARod is one of the best five hitters in the bigs (maybe the best) along with Bonds. Whatever hes doing is working at the highest level of baseball.

When I look at his swing a see a lot of Top hand torque to generate a ton of early batspeed, I also see BHT in his swing. These are two of the major components of the rotational swing and they are evident in ARod. At some times I can see him making contact a little out in front, but because he generates so much torque (BHT and THT) he can afford to do that at times. Its probably an affect of working with Lau too since he teaches to go get it on a bent front leg.

At contact ARod does not have a completely bent front leg, it is slightly bent to straight during his swings. It is only after he makes contact that he continues through the baseball onto a bent front leg. So hes doing the right things with a his lower body by having a fairly straght and slightly bent front leg at contact.

Anyone else with an analysis ? His swing is gorgeous watching it on tv at normal speed.


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