Posted by: Teacherman () on Sun Nov 11 09:30:25 2007

You can't have it both ways, Jack.

If what you describe in the Rose analysis is correct....then Rose is pushing through contact. Or pulling. Take your pick. Both are incorrect. Hitters do not torque through contact. The torque happens far up stream.

I've stood up for you and your "heavy bag drill" many times. I've taken a lot of heat from the uninformed about it. The critics say that you'll damage the wrists if you hit that heavy bag over and over.

Of course, the wrists aren't involved in that collision. They've already spent their energy....way up stream....just like a lumberjack. The hands and wrists are on autopilot at that point.

Your Rose analysis starts at lag and goes through contact. I'm not equipped to tell you exactly which frame the pushing/pulling stops. But I know you agree. It doesn't happen through contact. Because you talk about it in the heavy bag drill.

So.......you are highly inconsistent with your "heavy bag drill" and "your Rose analysis".

At the point of your description of the 'apex'....actually a couple of frames before that....the barrel is moving the hands. The hands are not moving the barrel.

The hook in the hand path is a myth. If hitters waited until the point of the hook to push/pull...add BHT...whatever...to generate batspeed, they'd be writing on messages boards like you and I.

The hands torque the barrel at "go".