Posted by: Richard (my real name) Calta () on Sun Mar 2 08:15:06 2003

I see that apparently this O'Really chap is in cahoots with Major Dan and Teacherman. O'Really says it was good debate and their were nothing personal in their attacks and seconds later calls Zig and his "crew" out by referring to their opinions or desire to understand "foolishness. (we assume that the "crew" referred to are people who do not necessarily agree with anything, but instead want the truth to be discovered and those who do not have the support of data driven results to listen and question respectly without names calling).

Mr. O'Really presented a solid argument to some extent. But his and other post deteriorated to personal attacks. Major Dan's calls to find out if Zig is real. give me a break. Zig uses his real name as do many of us and they hide behind screennames to keep people who might want to check up on their credibility from knowing that they are probably not experts at all and have never played the game or been coached by any one with knowledge. WHo are these guys? Maybe they hide behind screennames, so that they can attack without people without the response being personalized.

I appreciate the deletion of some of the posts. Perhaps there is another solution. i don't know what it is but it should be sought.

I don't think Major Dan, O'Really, Teacherman, initial attacks on Zig were fair, nor was Zig's initial response to the attack were appropriate. Everyone seems to be attacking Zig because perhaps he go a little offended that the attack turned personal to him instead of challenging his data. I am also (as are many others) interested in what Zig and his tests show, without slanderous attacks.

I challenge these anonymous posters to Identify themselves and where they teach, who they have worked with and where they get their answers. O'Really sounds like he gets his from Journals and books. Zig is in the field working with athletes of all levels, I know nothing about the other two because there is very little substance to their postings. A third poster "Marvin" (I believe) even has the gall to claim "exercise sciences" like "Kinesiology", and "Physiology" and all the research behind these study programs are not science. This is personal. If someone had said to me that my profession was a joke I would have gotten offended as well (even though Zig did not respond specifically to the attack on his education).

Let the "debate" continue!