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Posted by: mac () on Sun Jan 19 10:01:59 2003

Thank you.I mean Gibson, Kofax, Feller, Carlton..the .list goes on and on. How fast were those guys throwing?
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> Ok. You've named a few good ones. Now in that era, check out the speeds of the #2,#3,#4 and/or #5 pitchers in there rotations. Normally a big drop off, although some of them were good pitchers (location, change of speed, breaking ball) etc. Now check the #2, #3, #4, #5 of todays pitching staffs. The vast majority hit 90 or higher. For that matter, you can hardly get drafted if you don't throw 90 or at least projected to be able to.

>>>Teach, In the Koufax, Gibson, Drysdale era they only had 4 man rotations and their mph was not clocked on a nightly basis by scouts with Jugs/Stalker guns or any other gun. So, is it your "opinion" that there was a big drop off in the velocity of the #2, #3 and #4 starters or do you have facts to back it up? The two teams in the World Series this past year had 5 starters each and out of the 10 pitchers, 4 of them Russ Ortiz, Jason Schmidt, Ramon Ortiz and John Lackey AVERAGED 90 or more on the gun. The other six AVERAGED in the upper 80's. What did the better staffs of the 60's average? No one knows.>>>>>

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> Thank you.I mean Gibson, Kofax, Feller, Carlton..the .list goes on and on. How fast were those guys throwing?
> > 
> > Ok. You've named a few good ones.  Now in that era, check out the speeds of the #2,#3,#4 and/or #5 pitchers in there rotations.  Normally a big drop off, although some of them were good pitchers (location, change of speed, breaking ball) etc.  Now check the #2, #3, #4, #5 of todays pitching staffs.  The vast majority hit 90 or higher.  For that matter, you can hardly get drafted if you don't throw 90 or at least projected to be able to.
> 
> >>>Teach, In the Koufax, Gibson, Drysdale era they only had 4 man rotations and their mph was not clocked on a nightly basis by scouts with Jugs/Stalker guns or any other gun. So, is it your "opinion"  that there was a big drop off in the velocity of the #2, #3 and #4 starters or do you have facts to back it up? The two teams in the World Series this past year had 5 starters each and out of the 10 pitchers, 4 of them Russ Ortiz, Jason Schmidt, Ramon Ortiz and John Lackey AVERAGED 90 or more on the gun. The other six AVERAGED in the upper 80's. What did the better staffs of the 60's average? No one knows.>>>>>

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