Posted by: Shawn (mariner0324@yahoo.com) on Fri Sep 7 13:53:43 2007

> Hi All
>
> Pre-Launch Torque (PLT) and Top-Hand-Torque (THT) are key components of a high level swing. Getting a good visual image of these complex swing mechanics from the writing word is difficult at best. Therefore, I thought it would be helpful if I gave my description of the differences between the two and then show MotionView clips of batters exhibiting PLT before shoulder rotation is initiated.
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> I also think these clips may address Shawn’s (Aug post) statements below.
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> ##
> “The elbow is lowering as the hips begin rotation, the bat doesn't arc backwards during this time. The bat doesn't arc until shoulder rotation”
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> “The "issue" was if THT or torque was responsible for the bat arcing a greater distance. That was the entire issue.”
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> “Stop dodging the issues!!”
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> “Show a clip of the bat arcing "prior" to shoulder rotation.”
> ##
>
> Here is my 2003 post explaining the two stages of THT
> <a href="http://www.batspeed.com/messageboard/12745.html">Jack’s description of PLT to THT</a>
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> <a href="http://www.batspeed.com/media/Sosa_PLT_THT.wmv">Sosa PLT to THT</a>
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> <a href="http://www.batspeed.com/media/Bonds_PLT.wmv">Bonds PLT to THT</a>
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> This clip demonstrates the principles of applying THT once the bat-head has been sweep behind the head into the swing plane. Note that I just lay my fingers of the top-hand around the handle. I do not grip it with the palm because I will pull rearward with the fingers instead of driving forward with the palm.
> <a href="http://www.batspeed.com/media/THTHigh.wmv">Applying THT</a>
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> Jack Mankin

Jack,

This is the best way to get at the issue of what is happening.

I'm showing a different view and perhaps you can comment how what "I see". I see the bat moving downwards, I don't see the bat moving backwards to any large degree. Another thing are we suppose to believe that a small movement backwards creates some great energy to the swing? I don't think it works that way.

Anyways, here a different look at PLT and THT,

http://home.comcast.net/~ben_2004/plttht.wmv

Shawn