Posted by: Pat A () on Thu Sep 5 13:44:02 2002

Hi
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> > > > Whats Diffrent Between Lower Body And Upper Rotational Mechanics the way I see it they both out to do the same Job.. aslo I saw Alfonso Soriano Swing when they Frame the swing they show Inward Turn and hit a Homerun that at Bat. And when I see Bonds I see his hips lead his hands. If u wanna check out what I mean heres the site
> > > > http://www.usatoday.com/sports/gallery/bonds/flash.htm So I say my comments with respect
> > > > What is the site for Soriano's swing
> > Here is a Setpro discussion with links to Soriano clips;
> > http://www.setpro.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000025.html
> > They make note of the knee torque that he uses. It appears to me that all the aspects of rotational swing are there. I wonder about the term "hips lead the hands", his hand path is, in my opinion, hip driven and definitely arc shaped. Once his heel drops, the swing appears to be almost a one piece swing?,(does that make sense?).
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> >>I have'nt seen the clip yet,but the hands are driven by the shoulders not the hips,the hands are not connected to the hips.If you watch the clip and it is frame by frame then I would think the hips start to open before the shoulders,right around heel down look for it,the hands if connected well have a chp that follows the shoulder rotation

This clip might not have enough footage at the beginning, (pre-swing), it appears that Soriono starts from torque position,(pre-torques), ala Garciaparra. We have discussed this on FPF as a possible emulation model for fastpitch, as hip turn and rotation appear to occur almost simultaneously, again similar to Garciaparra.