Posted by: tom.guerry (tom.guerry@kp.org) on Thu Jun 20 15:28:17 2002

Seems there are some who, rather than seeking to learn or impart knowlege, are more interested in playing gotcha' with Jack. Some on here state their disagreements with Jack in an interesting and thoughtful way. Others are just too full of ego or something to be useful contributors to this, or any other I suspect, forum. My vote would be for Jack to engage in a little housecleaning and just squash the cockroach posts when they appear. I am confident, given Jack's track record that this won't result in censorship of opposing views.
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> > > > > Mark H.
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> > > > mark, for the most part you are absolutely correct...
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> > > Who cares? "A frank and open-minded discussion of the baseball and softball swing should be a benefit to all."
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> > Indeed.
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> > You are free to ignore any posts or posters you want.
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> > Perhaps you're right to view it that way. It does get irritating to see juvenile attacks on as patient a person as Jack.
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> > From what I have seen and read of Jack, his lack of ego and non-confrontational nature is something to aspire to.
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> > Yes, but a virtue can be carried too far.
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> > Mark H.
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> Mark-
> I agree. Jack is very patient and non-confrontational and that is a virtue. I just don't get what goes on in the heads of a few who, as you say, play gotcha instead of simply discussing the issues they disagree with.
> I'm not sure those posts should be squashed but I wish that the attacks and gotcha's were rephrased as "I don't agree with you when you said 'X'. I think it's 'Y' and this is why". Then we could discuss.
> I actually think some of the biggest offenders could be providing the most interesting counterpoints to discussions, if done in a more discussion oriented manner.
> Of all the Internet baseball 'gurus', Jack is the most humble, least likely to take someone to task, most likely to give a straight reply.
> I don't get why he gets treated as if he's either trying to fool someone or suppressing anyone's ideas.
> I think he's pretty open to discussing ideas.
> Thanks Jack.

As rql says,there are 2 kinds of ball players,ones that are humble and ones that are about to be.