Posted by: Jack Mankin (MrBatspeed@aol.com) on Sun May 19 21:07:31 2002

>>> Jack,rql,et al_
Do you still feel some degree of pull back with the bottom hand at contact even on the outside pitch?

For the outside pitch,as I understand Jack's description,the front bicep stays against the chest,the handpath is wider at launch with less flex in the elbow creating a higher load situation.There is less torso turn with more bathead extension including some "L" out of back elbow at contact.Even though visually any remaining flex can come out of the front elbow just before contact,I find personally there is still the feeling of pulling back with the bottom hand(bht feel/torque feel)which may come from the fact that as Jack says the big muscles are driving the swing.This pulls the front elbow to extension(if there is still flex in it near contact)even if the bottom hand is resisting pulling back.This would be quite a different feel from feeling the extension of both elbows(smaller muscles) through contact.rql-what feel do you prefer ? Does it matter ?

Another point Jack may be making which I had not appreciated before is that having the lead arm near extension at launch can increase the amount of plate coverage using bht mechanics,maintaining this handpath for middle/out stuff and hooking the handpath for anything further in.I'll have to give that a try.Am I interpreting this right Jack ? <<<

Hi Tom

I have always admired your in-depth analysis of swing mechanics and your interpretation of my work has been right on target.

Jack Mankin