Posted by: () on Sun Mar 10 13:45:32 2002

>>> The back arm being extended on the outside pitch IMO just allows the front arm pull to be applied across a wider arc. If the back"side" takes to much of an active role on the outside you can get very early rollover. I agree the outside pitch is a disadvantaged position either way. However, when the "dog hits the end of the leash" it's surprising how hard it can be hit irregardless of the disadvantaged position. For the outside pitch, I just don't feel the backside can really do a lot except allow the front side to pull accross a wider arc. The front arm casts out earlier away from it's position draped across the chest.
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> Maybe we are talking about the extremes but the better the pitcher--the more you won't see one down the middle. I see most pros setting up well away from plate than youths (and that's even considering size differences) Pros have the same problems with getting jammed as the youth hitter. Difference is they've learned to deal with the outside pitch. Now they can setup so that the pitch on the inside of the plate is more like a pitch down the middle. The one that jams the pro seriously is generally not a strike. Or it's one they started to anticipate outside that breaks in. <<<
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> Hi T Olson
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> When discussing the role of the lead-arm in generating bat speed, it is important to keep in mind that the arm itself is “not” developing the energy supplied to the bat. The energy to the bottom-hand comes from the rotation of the lead-shoulder. The lead-arm serves mainly as linkage to that energy. Therefore, as I stated earlier, the lead-side can supply more energy to the swing on middle-in pitches where full shoulder rotation can occur and less on outside pitches where shoulder rotation is limited.
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> Understanding the principle of top-hand-torque allows the better hitters to hit the outside pitch even harder than the inside pitch. Top-hand-torque uses rotational principles where the batter thinks in terms of constantly accelerating arcs of energy. Linear mechanics would see a dog running straight out and rotating after and hitting the end of a leash. Two ever different concepts. --- Driving the top-hand out aggressively on outside pitches may very well cause the wrist to prematurely roll – But aggressively pulling the top-hand back won’t.
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> I fully agree that a good pitcher seldom makes the mistake dealing one to the middle portion of the plate. Throwing inside or outside forces the batter to concentrate on either bottom or top-hand-torque –the batter can use both a pitch down the middle.
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> Jack Mankin

Tolson wrote:
"I just don't feel the backside can really do a lot except allow the front side to pull accross a wider arc"

Jack wrote:
"Throwing inside or outside forces the batter to concentrate on either bottom or top-hand-torque"

I wonder also about the concept of:
Inside you drive the backside hip directly through the front hip,
and outside, you drive the backside hip directly through the opposite field location that ball contact is anticipated?

Please, comments.