Posted by: () on Mon Dec 10 05:07:02 2001

Major Dan:
> > > > > > you don't find MLB players with REALLY linear mechanics but some are more linear than others (Ichiro is surprisingly rotational in his mechanics, but in a weird way)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mark H:
> > > > > > Isn't he though. I can't figure him out at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What are Ichiro's mechanics? Is he linear or rotational?
> > > > > > For starters, his axis of rotation moves forward a lot (weight shifter?) but he seems to rotate. What does that make him?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey, "experts"
> > > > >
> > > > > If you can't figure out if a guy is using one method or another by watching him, maybe there is no difference in the methods. You just think there is a difference. DUH!
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe A.
> > > >
> > > > Another drive-by posting. lol Seriously, he doesn't look like anyone I've ever seen before. Anyone have any good clips? I've only watched what I've taped from TV and that wasn't very good.
> > > >
> > > > Mark H.
> > >
> > > Whom Ever,
> > >
> > > Identify three(3)(III) elements of the swing and explain, in as few words as possible (KISS,) the difference between the two methods.
> > >
> > > If there isn't three(3)(III, do two(2)(II) or one. Whatever.
> > >
> > > Using batters as example will not help. Most people haven't seen them in a way that allows evaluation or comparison. Just explain it so someone can understand it.
> > >
> > > Joe A.
> > >
> >
> > Perhaps reading all of Jack's supporting material on the rest of his website would help? :-)
> >
> > Happy to Help,
> > Mark H.
>
> I don't understand what Joe meant about the 3 parts of the swing, but Joe did say "If you can't figure out if a guy is using one method or another by watching him, maybe there is no difference in the methods. You just think there is a difference." Now, let's think about this statement. Does top hand torque start with the fingers pulling or the thumb pushing? Does a hitter think "threw the bat at the ball"? After the stride is completed, does a mere continued forward movement of the lower body constitute a "linear" swing? I could probably come up with a gazillion more details discussed at this site. Is my point that these matters are too trivial to discuss? No, I'm not saying that at all, but I am saying that one should be careful about citing what they think they see in a video clip as science, because it is not.

Whom ever,

I would suggest that very little on this site is based on science. I know this because the most important element of hitting is NEVER mentioned or even referred to in passing. NEVER!

Joe A.