Posted by: Teacherman () on Fri Feb 23 16:26:56 2007

I didn't reply?

What is this?

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Posted by: Teacherman () on Sat Jan 13 21:07:38 2007

The barrel turns about the hands in a plane different than what you describe.

You describe a swing plane that is centered by the spine. Or, said another way, the body is inside the swing plane. I believe today's hitters stand next to the swing plane as the barrel is turned in the hands in a diagonal plane out over the plate. See the hitters shown in the clips below.

Your model describes a mostly horizontal swing plane which IMO, doesn't match today's high level hitters.

www.teachersbilliards.com/hitzone/dortiz.gif
www.teachersbilliards.com/hitzone/delgado5.gif
www.teachersbilliards.com/hitzone/bonds4.gif

I will say, that at or near contact, the lead upper arm, lead lower arm and the bat can seem to line up. Form a line. But the path they took to get there is far from in the "shoulders momentum plane" and is not produced by shoulder rotation. And, because of this fact, the entire launch of the swing is misunderstood. And only a handful who play at the highest level know this.

At launch, the barrel is torqued immediately by the hands (forearms) and rotates in a plane roughly 90 degrees to the lead forearm. An immediate launch and spend of energy. And, as a hitter approaches contact, that angle approaches 180 degrees (lead upper arm, lead lower arm, bat seem to get in line). When a hitter hits the ball in the perfect spot deep in the zone, with perfect timing, it is hit before this allignment.

The hitter does his best to hit the ball before the swing rounds off and pulls the hands out of the hitzone.

It is my opinion, that teaching a circular hand path is a mistake. It is my opinion that hitters resist the circular path but lose. They attempt to keep the hands out over the plate as they rotate the barrel, but because of the body's rotation and their timing on any given pitch, the rotation will eventually win and round off the swing. That is far from an attempt to "create" the circular hand path. The circular hand path is inevitable. The body's rotation will win. But, the hitter, by jutting his lead elbow upward and rotating the forearms, does his best to keep that rotating barrel, that barrel that is rotating roughly 90 degrees to the lead forearm, out over the plate and in line with the ball. The hands must stay out over the plate, in line with the ball AS THEY ROTATE THE BARREL.

See the overhead Rose clip with the lines drawn on it. Everyone says "see....circular hand path." Well, study it a little closer. The lines are not drawn as accurately as they could be. If you used the same spot on the hands for each frame and drew a line connecting the spots, the initial move of Rose's hands is very, very straight to the ball. Then, as the rotation wins, the hand path rounds off.

This Second Engine upper body mechanism has several outstanding qualities. But, probably the most important (if I can say one is more important than the other) is.....the hands/forearms turn the barrel rearward at launch and this rearward movement of the barrel creates resistance that is used to break the upper and lower body apart. It is a mechanism that creates separation. The barrel loading, as Swingbuster calls it, the barrel going rearward, keeps the hands at the armpit while they turn the barrel. Guru after guru seek a method to keep the hands back. To keep the hitter from thrusting his hands forward. Well, high level hitters don't thrust and they use this mechanism to make it easy. It is automatic with the Second Engine. High level hitters use the barrel's weight and the resistance it's rearward movement creates, to keep the hands at the launch position and to break apart the upper and lower body. The hands are busy torquing the barrel rearward...therefore they don't go anywhere. And, finally, this barrel movement backward gives the hitter what DMac calls a running start. A huge advantage. The hitter starts the barrel in its arc rearward prior to any committment to the pitch. Then, when the decision is "go", he simply fires the forearms and continues the barrel in it's rearward path and it turns the corner and hits the crap out of the ball. The Second Engine will consistently square bat and ball because of the path of the arc. Shoulder momentum swings, lead shoulder pulling the bat around, double pendulum type swings have a sloppy arc and consistently slice the ball.

That's a lot of words to simply say.....Create the arc rearward....keep the arc in front of the ball.

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It's very simple Jack. And if you's swing a bat and try it you would feel it immediately.

You've loaded. Then, at "go", the forearms rotate turning the barrel rearward in the hands. The shoulders laterally tilt (a much more explosive move than rotation; much greater leverage) as the "two forearm unit" which I call a triangle, rotates about the hands, which remain out over the plate to the best of their ability. And as seen in all mlb clips. There is extension into and through the ball.....the hands do not wrap around the body as they would if the hand path was generated by shoulder rotation.

Now you wonder how does the hips energy get to the forearms which are the prime mover.....The lead elbow juts upward and creates resistance, the bypass, and does it's best to keep the shoulders back.

While that is going on the hips energy goes into the already rotating forearms.

Swing a bat and try it. You'll feel the hips energy go into the lead arm as it juts.