| Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Are pitchers "rotational", "linear", or both? 
 
 Posted by: Jimmy ( ) on Fri Feb 23 12:37:05 2007 
 
 > > > > > Hi Jimmy why is it that you do not answer questions? You avoid tough questions
 > > and
 > > > > only espouse rhetoric and name calling. I quoted a study that concurs that 20% of
 the
 > > > > velocity achieved by mechanically sound major league pitchers is achieved by
 > > directional
 > > > > movement. I also mentioned the throwing arm should not move before shoulder
 > > rotation
 > > > > is completed which is similar to hitting. The arms in hitting should not
 disconnect
 > > before
 > > > > contact. This is where you and I disagree. If a pitcher disconects before shoulder
 > > rotation
 > > > > is completed he is not mechanically sound. Yes there are similarities between
 pitching
 > > and
 > > > > hitting, there are also body positioning differances which you chose not to
 address. I
 > > > > believe that you are the misguided one.
 > > > >
 > > > > coach,
 > > > >
 > > > > Obviously there are differences in hitting and pitching. Anyone can figure that
 one
 > > out.
 > > > > The point is that there are similarities in the movements as well.
 > > > >
 > > > > You stated that " 20% of the velocity achieved by mechanically sound major
 league
 > > pitchers
 > > > > is achieved by directional movement".  This is one of those similarities.  Who
 knows
 > > what
 > > > > the percentage is, but there are directional (LINEAR) movements in a quality
 baseball
 > > > > swing. Especially with the hands and barrel.
 > > > >
 > > > > Have you ever hit with a wood bat in a game? Have you ever hit a ball over 500
 feet
 > > with
 > > > > that wood bat in a game? I didn't think so.
 > > > >
 > > > > Don't try to accuse me of avoiding anything. I make points that are true. What is
 so
 > > hard
 > > > > for any of the die hard rotation guys in here to understand?  LINEAR ONLY =
 > > > > BAD.......ROTATION ONLY = BAD.......ROTATION + LINEAR = MAJOR LEAGUE
 SWING.
 > > > >
 > > > > Jimmy
 > > >
 > > > Few hitters hit the ball over 500 feet and the ones that do are rotational.
 > >
 > > coach,
 > >
 > > I have, and I was never strictly rotational.
 > >
 > > Jimmy
 >
 > Bonds didnt know his swing path went up to meet the ball either.
 
 coach,
 
 The whole swing up discussion is over with. We all know that the barrel is traveling slightly
 upward just before contact. The difference is the direction that the swing is launched.
 Bonds launched his swing downward and this is why he thought his path was downward as
 well.  He continued to launch his swing downward even after it was revieled to him that
 the barrel was traveling upward at contact.  If Bonds tried to launch his swing upward, his
 path would be way under the plane of the pitch, along with less batspeed.
 
 Linear means through, not down. However the swing should be launched at a downward
 angle.
 
 Jimmy
 
 
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