Bat Speed -- Baseball Hitting Forum

Posted by: Shawn () on Sun Dec 21 22:40:36 2008

> >>> As CHP, torque, and shoulders turning all the way through contact, who does this, what hitter, what pitch. What might appear to be the shoulders turning through contact, is mostly follow through, and this is after the deceleration of the hips/torso/shoulder and lead arm. Which accelerates the the bat to it's peak velocity.
>
> Mankin saying that the lead arm pulls backwards, or lead shoulder, near contact is a deceleration of the lead arm and shoulders. It isn't to turn through contact, unless the pitch was inside and then it might appear that there was less deceleration.
>
> If you don't transfer the energy into the bat, the only thing a CHP or turning all the way through contact will do is spread out the bat speed throughout the motion. You will not achieve your best bat speed or highest velocity, because there isn't enough deceleration to funnel the energy completely into the bat. <<<
>
> Hi Shawn
>
> I have a couple questions regarding the theory that the bats maximum angular displacement rate is due to the deceleration of the hips/torso/shoulder and lead arm. -- First, let us address the bats angular acceleration due to taking the hands being taken in circular path. If I were to swing a ball around on a string, would you say the ball would continue to accelerate as the hands angular acceleration continues to increase? Or, would you say the balls maximum speed occurred because the hand began to decelerate?
>
> I have the same question as it applies to torque. Consider a 4-prong tire wrench. Would you say the maximum turning force is being applied as the opposing forces are increasing or decelerating?
>
> Jack Mankin

Jack, Tom,

If the first clip doesn't answer your questions, this one should help.

I didn't anything fancy with the clip, I several slow motion swings of Pujols, and this is just the first one I pulled up. I actually forgot to place one point of reference at the elbow.

This isn't the best angle, and then again it's not to bad. Of course we would need an overhead view of the this swing to make any real definite answers or questions.

It doesn't take any rocket science knowledge or rocket science to explain what is happening, and is in complete compliance with what you see in the golf swing.

Same science, same results.

Like I said, I'm not going into any detail, and perhaps we can do this later.

Just wanted to show the clip.

Note that he doesn't make perfect contact, yet it still resulted in a HR to left-center.

http://home.comcast.net/~ben_2004/pujolswhip.gif

Talk to you later,
Shawn

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> > >>> As CHP, torque, and shoulders turning all the way through contact, who does this, what hitter, what pitch. What might appear to be the shoulders turning through contact, is mostly follow through, and this is after the deceleration of the hips/torso/shoulder and lead arm. Which accelerates the the bat to it's peak velocity.
> > 
> > Mankin saying that the lead arm pulls backwards, or lead shoulder, near contact is a deceleration of the lead arm and shoulders. It isn't to turn through contact, unless the pitch was inside and then it might appear that there was less deceleration.
> > 
> > If you don't transfer the energy into the bat, the only thing a CHP or turning all the way through contact will do is spread out the bat speed throughout the motion. You will not achieve your best bat speed or highest velocity, because there isn't enough deceleration to funnel the energy completely into the bat. <<<
> > 
> > Hi Shawn
> > 
> > I have a couple questions regarding the theory that the bats maximum angular displacement rate is due to the deceleration of the hips/torso/shoulder and lead arm. -- First, let us address the bats angular acceleration due to taking the hands being taken in circular path. If I were to swing a ball around on a string, would you say the ball would continue to accelerate as the hands angular acceleration continues to increase? Or, would you say the balls maximum speed occurred because the hand began to decelerate?
> > 
> > I have the same question as it applies to torque. Consider a 4-prong tire wrench. Would you say the maximum turning force is being applied as the opposing forces are increasing or decelerating?
> > 
> > Jack Mankin
> 
> Jack, Tom,
> 
> If the first clip doesn't answer your questions, this one should help.
> 
> I didn't anything fancy with the clip, I several slow motion swings of Pujols, and this is just the first one I pulled up. I actually forgot to place one point of reference at the elbow.
> 
> This isn't the best angle, and then again it's not to bad. Of course we would need an overhead view of the this swing to make any real definite answers or questions.
> 
> It doesn't take any rocket science knowledge or rocket science to explain what is happening, and is in complete compliance with what you see in the golf swing.
> 
> Same science, same results.
> 
> Like I said, I'm not going into any detail, and perhaps we can do this later.
> 
> Just wanted to show the clip.
> 
> Note that he doesn't make perfect contact, yet it still resulted in a HR to left-center.
> 
> http://home.comcast.net/~ben_2004/pujolswhip.gif
> 
> Talk to you later,
> Shawn

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