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Posted by: rql () on Wed Nov 5 17:02:53 2008

> > > I have a boy playing high school baseball. We are having a hard time getting rid of a loop in his swing, basically the hands drop a bit and alot of times swinging a little up on the ball at impact. He does not do it off the tee, only live hitting. We have tried starting hands high, hands low and going up on the load, still has a tendency to do it. Any good drills anyone has would be appreciated
> > I have seen this problem many times and it is often a result of the same problem,however if he is swinging a little up at impact will that is what all great hitters are doing,the problem is you can do it right and wrong.
> > My best guess is that it is a result of the rear elbow beating the hands to the race of getting to the ribs.The reason it loses the race is a lack of lead shoulder rotation that keeps pulling the bottom hand forward ,maybe jack can post an old clip of this flaw that also is a type of disconnection and then you can film your hitter from the side and see if you see the same thing going on.
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> rql,
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> I respectfully disagree. The pulling hard of the lead shoulder is what causes the loop/dump of the barrel. Because the top hand is no longer in control/ top hand has no idea where the barrel is going. Pulling the knob out from under the barrel causes it to fall into a long loopy swing.
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> I would suggest keeping the hands in the armpit area. Get the lead elbow up while applying THT. The lead elbow working up helps keep the hands up. Focus on keeping the rear forearm vertical, don't let it drop horizontal to the ground.
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> Graylon
>.What I am trying to refer to is the swing as you see in sosa and abreu and though the lead elbow does work up in the tilt and the rear forearm does initially work vertical but as lead shoulder rotates and it does rotate the forearm becomes parallel to the ground it is easy to see in jacks pics,it is at this lag area of the swing where lack of shoulder rotation allows the rear elbow to beat the hands to the hipand when it does you get bat drag and often loop,both abreu and sosa are rotating their shoulders and the hands are beating the rear elbow to the side though you cannot see it in pics from the front,side view is best

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> > > > I have a boy playing high school baseball. We are having a hard time getting rid of a loop in his swing, basically the hands drop a bit and alot of times swinging a little up on the ball at impact. He does not do it off the tee, only live hitting. We have tried starting hands high, hands low and going up on the load, still has a tendency to do it. Any good drills anyone has would be appreciated
> > > I have seen this problem many times and it is often a result of the same problem,however if he is swinging a little up at impact will that is what all great hitters are doing,the problem is you can do it right and wrong.
> > >   My best guess is that it is a result of the rear elbow beating the hands to the race of getting to the ribs.The reason it loses the race is a lack of lead shoulder rotation that keeps pulling the bottom hand forward ,maybe jack can post an old clip of this flaw that also is a type of disconnection and then you can film your hitter from the side and see if you see the same thing going on.
> > 
> > rql,
> > 
> > I respectfully disagree. The pulling hard of the lead shoulder is what causes the loop/dump of the barrel. Because the top hand is no longer in control/ top hand has no idea where the barrel is going. Pulling the knob out from under the barrel causes it to fall into a long loopy swing.
> > 
> > I would suggest keeping the hands in the armpit area. Get the lead elbow up while applying THT. The lead elbow working up helps keep the hands up. Focus on keeping the rear forearm vertical, don't let it drop horizontal to the ground.
> > 
> > Graylon
> >.What I am trying to refer to is the swing as you see in sosa and abreu and though the lead elbow does work up in the tilt and the rear forearm does initially work vertical but as lead shoulder rotates and it does rotate the forearm becomes parallel to the ground it is easy to see in jacks pics,it is at this lag area of the swing where lack of shoulder rotation allows the rear elbow to beat the hands to the hipand when it does you get bat drag and often loop,both abreu and sosa are rotating their shoulders and the hands are beating the rear elbow to the side though you cannot see it in pics from the front,side view is best

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