Posted by: rql () on Sun Oct 5 12:30:35 2008

> rql-
>
> You could also mix up this BALL/CONTACT '"cue" with a HAND action cue like whether or
> not the HANDS stay in as opposed to focussing on relation of bathead to ball at contact.
>
> Say for example, following Jack's recommendations here, you could hit a somewhat
> outside ball best up the middle, not OPPO, by well timed/significant THT so bathead
> swings out more before contact, OR
> you could hit the inside of this ball and make it go more weakly OPPO by letting the hands
> extend more/going linear.
>
> So in the first case you would keep the hands in, even tough you did not "stay inside the
> ball" . You could have hit around the ball in a good way. In this case as Jack has said (I
> think) "What's wrong with casting ?".
>
> Or in the second weaker/oppo case, you could stay inside the ball by taking the hands to
> the ball, disconnecting or "inside-outing" the ball. Which is more what you are describing.
>
> So it can make a difference if you are trying to keep the bathead in or the hands in/inside
> the ball

<<<Tom yes you can do what jack says but that is not what is happening on a swing that is being promoted as staying inside the ball,I guess I could best describe it as a fence drill swing,jacks swing idea of hitting the ball to center on away pitch like[bonds did so well]is a rotational swing and yes the hands are always inside the ball but the barrel drag hitting inside part of ball is the staying inside the ball swing that these commentators speak of,at least that is what the hitters do when they refer to this term.
John,we have created terms here that describe things we discuss here, so many of these terms are not used mainstream,however it has only been in the last few years that I have begun to hear announcers use terms like torque,and rotation,clearing the hips,the load or negative move 1st.None of this did i hear about in the 90s but they are using these terms now not all of them but some,and the announcers unfortunately often just hear the terms and do not understand the process very well so they use them wrong when they try to explain which I think hurts many dad coaches out there hearing this and teaching hitters wrong.You can use many terms or cues for both linear and rotational as the same but what they mean ,their is intent is very different for each