Posted by: ray porco () on Mon Mar 12 18:29:16 2001

>>> I believe that what some folks may call linear others may call rotational and visa versa. If we all had a common visual reference to base a discussion from I believe that the discussion would be better for all. I may be the only one that feels this way but I'm willing to provide (or try to provide) the visual reference to base this discussion on. Hopefully Jack doesn't mind this attempt of mine. <<<
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> > Hi Terry
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> > I think you’re showing clips of the swing on your site (http://pub44.ezboard.com/bdigitalsportsanalysis) is a great benefit to all of us that study mechanics. --- If you could show the 5 or 6 frames from initiation to contact frozen for a couple of seconds each, it would be a good way to discuss the body position and mechanics used for each segment of the swing.
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> > Jack Mankin
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> Terry and Jack -
> I'm having trouble downloading Quicktime so my observations are from repeated viewings of the clip rather than stop action.
> I also see the Top Hand Torque. He uses both legs to torque his hips.
> In what appears to be about the second frame after front heel down, his hands appear to pull forward (pull the knob of the bat?) and his hips slow down. From that point on the hips and shoulders rotate together. He also seems to bend at the waist at that point.
> I wonder if he made an adjustment to a breaking ball (go down and get it) or if this is typical?
> There are certainly rotational elements to his swing. The angle makes it difficult for me to tell if he has a circular hand path or is linear for that moment where the hands seem to go forward. Or is it just a missing frame?
> Any ideas on this anyone?



yea major dan,

"he also seems to bend at the waist at that point. i wonder if he made an adjustment to a breaking ball (go down and get it)..."

agree 100%. i also think he got fooled or was looking for something else, because he doesn't let the pitch get in on him (makes contact too far out in front for an outside pitch). for those that don't think it's a breaking ball, outside - watch the catcher's mit turn.

bad form, too. rotational axis moves. quote by jack, "now, take a stake, drive down through the head and body, out the butt and into 6 feet of concrete..." wellllll, that concrete must not be set yet.

terry,

you are tooooo good. followed your instructions (very clear and simple). pretty neat, although i think the clip was a bad angle on a bad swing.

ray porco