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Posted by: ray porco () on Fri Nov 4 03:42:11 2005

Jack,

With all due respect, while you have pointed out that I agree that SHIFTING ceases at heel plant, either you have not read the original thread started by me, nor the reprint, or have not understood, or simply (intentionally or un-) left out that I believe that there is a TRANSFER that continues beyond heel plant, and that this transfer continues right up until contact.

I quote me (from the thread):

>>>>>>We shift weight to LOAD the front leg, but that’s not all.
What we are talking about, (actually not talking about enough) is not JUST a mere SHIFT in WEIGHT, but a CONVEYANCE OF PRESSURE. A TRANSFER of FORCE.
And that conveyance DOES NOT STOP at “heel plant”, rather it stops AT CONTACT.
My proof?
Well force plates can scientifically confirm, but all you really have to look at, is the rear foot off the ground (or barely on the toe) at contact. Where is the “Center of Pressure” at contact?
Quoting Major Dan, “The front leg is not just used to bounce off of, but to catch the body weight and redirect it.”<<<<<<

Whatever the case, with all due respect, you have ignored (twice now), the original intent of the thread:

I quote me again (from the same thread):

>>>>>> To find out what “weight shift” adds to a swing, all one has to do is remove it from the swing and see exactly what is missing. So if one were to take the “weight shift” out of their swing they should be able to tell what is missing from their swing and therefore what it adds to the swing and therefore why we/everyone “weight shifts”.<<<<<<

And so, I ask you directly Jack:

>>>>>>If “weight shift” STOPS before body rotation begins, this should be fairly easy for you/anyone to attempt. Assume the position you would be in when rotation starts and simply start your swing (rotate) from that point, with no forward movement of your Center of Gravity. Apply THT or BHT, work your front shoulder all the way back to the catcher while your top hand assumes the “L”,but simply do not allow your Center of Gravity (your belly button is approximate enough) to move forward.

I know what my results are.
In fact I would ask all readers of this post to try this, and disclose their results.<<<<<<

Please, what are your results?

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> Jack,
> 
> With all due respect, while you have pointed out that I agree that SHIFTING ceases at heel plant, either you have not read the original thread started by me, nor the reprint, or have not understood, or simply (intentionally or un-) left out that I believe that there is a TRANSFER that continues beyond heel plant, and that this transfer continues right up until contact. 
> 
> I quote me (from the thread):
> 
> >>>>>>We shift weight to LOAD the front leg, but that’s not all.
> What we are talking about, (actually not talking about enough) is not JUST a mere SHIFT in WEIGHT, but a CONVEYANCE OF PRESSURE. A TRANSFER of FORCE.
> And that conveyance DOES NOT STOP at “heel plant”, rather it stops AT CONTACT.
> My proof?
> Well force plates can scientifically confirm, but all you really have to look at, is the rear foot off the ground (or barely on the toe) at contact. Where is the “Center of Pressure” at contact?
> Quoting Major Dan, “The front leg is not just used to bounce off of, but to catch the body weight and redirect it.”<<<<<<
> 
> 
> Whatever the case, with all due respect, you have ignored (twice now), the original intent of the thread:
> 
> I quote me again (from the same thread):
> 
> >>>>>> To find out what “weight shift” adds to a swing, all one has to do is remove it from the swing and see exactly what is missing.   So if one were to take the “weight shift” out of their swing they should be able to tell what is missing from their swing and therefore what it adds to the swing and therefore why we/everyone “weight shifts”.<<<<<< 
> 
> 
> And so, I ask you directly Jack:
> 
> 
> >>>>>>If “weight shift” STOPS before body rotation begins, this should be fairly easy for you/anyone to attempt. Assume the position you would be in when rotation starts and simply start your swing (rotate) from that point, with no forward movement of your Center of Gravity. Apply THT or BHT, work your front shoulder all the way back to the catcher while your top hand assumes the “L”,but simply do not allow your Center of Gravity (your belly button is approximate enough) to move forward.
> 
> I know what my results are.
> In fact I would ask all readers of this post to try this, and disclose their results.<<<<<<
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please, what are your results?

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