Posted by: Graylon (g_dunc@hotmail.com) on Wed Aug 27 17:13:44 2008

> > Keep casting and pulling around with the lead shoulder...Try laterally tilting and see what happens...>
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> Casting is a straw man. Casting is when the barrel is thrown ahead of the hands at initiation. No one is saying that.
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> Casting has nothing to do with the lead arm. It is a golf term invented by the few pros in the world, Scots, to skin wealthy Americans out of money for lessons about 100 years ago.
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> I guess it could apply to baseball. But all it means is moving the striking head of an implement of the hands at initiation. Casting is mostly a spastic throwing action of the top hand and has little to do with the lead arm.
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> Lateral tilt. No is saying avoid adjusting the spine angle as required to get to the pitch.
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> Pulling off. No one is saying open the shoulders and fly the hips before decision.
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> You are inventing false arguments and then demolishing them. No one is arguing for the points you seem to think they are.
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> Melvin


So, one can not cast his hands away from his rear shoulder, away from his body, prior to initiation of the swing?

Lateral tilt happens all the time. It is how the body delays the shoulders and aids in creating stretch. We don't tilt to get on plane and then swing.

The hips are opening before decision to go has been made. with out the lateral tilt the shoulders will go with them.

The argument was that everyone hits inside the ball and that the fence drill is a stupid drill. I replied that yes every ones hands are inside the ball at contact but some (not meaning MLB hitters) cast the hands away from the body creating an outside in swing slicing through the ball. To slow, to long and no adjustability.

Graylon