Posted by: Jack Mankin (MrBatspeed@aol.com) on Fri May 6 13:12:58 2005

Hi Jack:

>>> In The "Final Arc II," John Elliot instructs Aaron and Julie to 'flip the back shoulder over by pulling back with the back hand, starting a circular hand path.'

Based on that information, I have a question: will barring the lead arm against the chest while flipping the back palm so that if faces up produce a circular hand path?

A response will be greatly appreciated. <<<

Hi BHL

John did not say to “flip the back shoulder over by pulling back with the back hand, in starting a circular hand path.” His exact words were “We are flipping over our back shoulder by pulling back with the back hand, starting a circular hand path.” In his demonstration, he was referring to flipping (his terminology) the top-hand over the back-shoulder to initiate the swing with THT and fling the hands into a circular path. – I would describe it as the top-hand pulling rearward during initiation.

During initiation, John certainly did not flip “the back palm so that it faces up to produce a circular hand path” in his demonstration. That would lead to all kinds of problems. While the top-hand is pulling rearward, the palm remains more downward until the elbow lowers where it becomes more vertical.The top-hand does not roll to palm-up until the back-forearm rotates down toward horizontal.

Jack Mankin