Posted by: Jack Mankin (MrBatspeed@aol.com) on Wed Mar 16 10:16:33 2005

>>> It is very simple: "Casting and blasting" referes to the "long" swing long because casting takes more time for the bat to get to the ball. long = the hips opening way to early, very important the hands come AROUND the baseball instead of INSIDE the baseball. If the hands stay inside the baseball and the hips explode after the hands lead the swing than you effectivly SHORTEN your swing. Hands always should lead and stay inside the BASEBALL. much easier said than done. <<<

Hi Coach Berry

Welcome to the site. -- Coaches often have conflicting views on what constitutes sound batting principles and swing mechanics. Sometimes however, what appears to be a conflict of concepts is actually caused by coaches having a different interpretation of a batting cue or principle – such as “casting” or what constitutes a “long or short” swing.

For example, I may interpret “keep the hands inside the ball” different than you. I will place a post from the archives on this topic below. I would be interested in your thoughts if you have a different view of the cue. Then we can address “casting.”

Jack Mankin
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Re: Re: Major Dan: Inside the Ball Question

Posted by: Jack Mankin (MrBatspeed@aol.com) on Mon Feb 10 15:07:51 2003

(Magor Dan)
>>> This thread on 'staying inside the ball' never did reach any sort of resolution.
I will throw out several questions that need to be addressed in order to have this discussion:
1- is 'staying inside the ball' and 'keeping the hands in' the same thing?
1A - if not, what does 'staying inside the ball' mean?

2- what is relationship between transfer mechanics and 'staying inside the ball' (that is pretty close to Phil's original question)

3- if good transfer mechanics = staying connected, does staying connected necessarily make the hitter 'stay inside the ball' ? <<<

Hi Major Dan & Teacherman

I think Major Dan asked the key question, “what does 'staying inside the ball' mean?” I really have had a problem identifying the real purpose of the cue. From a normal position in the box, the ball is around 24 inches or so from the hands at contact. And since for most of the strike zone the hand-path also reaches its' widest path at contact, there is virtually no way the hands could even approach going “outside the ball.” So, “what does 'staying inside the ball' mean?” What is it suppose to accomplish?

In my opinion, when the cue was originated, it had nothing to do with staying connected. I think the “keep your hands inside the ball” cue is an old holdover from linear mechanics. It was intended to take any arc (or loop) out of the hand-path so the hands could go directly (straight) to the ball. --- For a batter to produce the most productive circular-hand-path, the first direction of the hands can not be back at the pitcher. As I show in the instructional video, the first movement must be perpendicular to the flight of the ball or parallel to the catcher’s shoulders. To me, “Keep your hands inside the ball” and “ The first movement of the hands must be perpendicular to the flight of the ball” are contradicting terms.

Jack Mankin
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