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Posted by: Jack Mankin (MrBatspeed@aol.com) on Mon Dec 13 20:56:34 2004

>>> Jack you never said anything about keeping hands anchored to the shoulder before, why now?Yes I can understand how you can come up with a useful cue out of the blue, but it seems like you're not just inventing a cue you're inventing a new concept you never discussed before. <<<

Hi Walt
I just started using the cue about a year ago and described it in a post a few months ago.

Jack Mankin
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>>> All this time you tried to expkain tht you never once mentioned that a key to tht was anchoring the fists to the shoulder.It appears that rather than inventing a cue to match the concept of tht you are inventing a new concept to match tht.I might add a concept that does not match what the major leaguers do.Whatever they are thinking when they hit I don't know.All either of us can do is look at the clips and analyze from there.<<<

I have stated from the day this Site came online, “ the hands must stay back at the shoulders and allow shoulder rotation to accelerate them into a circular hand-path.”

I am not saying it is a key to THT, I am saying it is a new technique (cue) for teaching THT.

Jack Mankin
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>>> But one thing is for sure, the clips do not show the average big league hitter with their hands any closer than 6 or 8 or 10 inches from shoulder, and I can think of several reasons why they would not. <<<

My plan to show just how wrong you are was to take you to http://www.youthbaseballcoaching.com/swings.html and work our way through some clips. However, I just looked and those clips are not there (I hope not for good). So go to the Swing Mechanics Page and cycle through the swing to “Frame #1”. What you see there is the launch position I have always advocated. It should be obvious to anyone that the hands are closer than 6 to 10 inches away from the shoulder. He could probably extend his thumb and touch it.

I have looked at thousands of launch frames where the hands are about the same position as “frame #1.” Nothing has changed Walt, these are the same principles as I expressed from the beginning. – I just recently found a new cue to teach it. I only regret not finding it before I made the video.

Note: I just reviewed the launch frame of Sosa in the 2003 Home Run Derby. His launch position is almost identical to Frame #1.

Jack Mankin

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> >>> Jack you never said anything about keeping hands anchored to the shoulder before, why now?Yes I can understand how you can come up with a useful cue out of the blue, but it seems like you're not just inventing a cue you're inventing a new concept you never discussed before. <<<
> 
> Hi Walt 
> I just started using the cue about a year ago and described it in a post a few months ago. 
> 
> Jack Mankin
> ##
> >>> All this time you tried to expkain tht you never once mentioned that a key to tht was anchoring the fists to the shoulder.It appears that rather than inventing a cue to match the concept of tht you are inventing a new concept to match tht.I might add a concept that does not match what the major leaguers do.Whatever they are thinking when they hit I don't know.All either of us can do is look at the clips and analyze from there.<<<
> 
> I have stated from the day this Site came online, “ the hands must stay back at the shoulders and allow shoulder rotation to accelerate them into a circular hand-path.”
> 
>  I am not saying it is a key to THT, I am saying it is a new technique (cue) for teaching THT. 
> 
> Jack Mankin
> ##
> 
> >>> But one thing is for sure, the clips do not show the average big league hitter with their hands any closer than 6 or 8 or 10 inches from shoulder, and I can think of several reasons why they would not. <<<
> 
> My plan to show just how wrong you are was to take you to  http://www.youthbaseballcoaching.com/swings.html and work our way through some clips. However, I just looked and those clips are not there (I hope not for good). So go to the Swing Mechanics Page and cycle through the swing to “Frame #1”. What you see there is the launch position I have always advocated. It should be obvious to anyone that the hands are closer than 6 to 10 inches away from the shoulder. He could probably extend his thumb and touch it. 
> 
> I have looked at thousands of launch frames where the hands are about the same position as “frame #1.” Nothing has changed Walt, these are the same principles as I expressed from the beginning.  –  I just recently found a new cue to teach it. I only regret not finding it before I made the video. 
> 
> Note: I just reviewed the launch frame of Sosa in the 2003 Home Run Derby. His launch position is almost identical to Frame #1. 
> 
> Jack Mankin

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