Posted by: Teacherman () on Wed Nov 24 07:47:04 2004

>>> Hi all of you....Thanks for the definition on THT! Now...let me say, and say it with respect to all. We want the shortest path!! We cannot begin to believe or even want to teach that we should pull all pitches...but sure if you want to CAST the hands and, let me add this, HOOK the barrel. Which now puts the barrel in front of the hands, then sure go for it. But you'll never be a quality hitter or have any!! By casting you have created a long path to the ball. Our extension must be to the pitcher and not to the plate. Our top hand is so important, more so than the bottom hand... We must allow the top hand elbow to be as close to what I call" THE SLOT" as possible on contact....we don't always achieve this because pitchers change speeds, but we should strive to be there as much as possible....thats why great hitters are great...they have great timing....HITTING IS TIMING....don't ever think it isn't...but in closing let me say the farther the top hand works away from the body the slower the bat speed. JAck....I also believe in TORQUE...but I refer to it mostly as RESISITENCE....meaning the lower half front and back sides work against each other. SO if you have good timing and your ryhtmn(APPROACH) is good...then you will have good bat speed.... <<<
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> > > > Hi Jeff
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> > > > I have read your posts and would say the content represents the thinking and teaching taught by 85+% of coaches. I teach rotational transfer principles, which are quite different from your thinking. I stated to Scott in a post below regarding problems my students are having with their new college coaches, “Their main problem is that college coaches do not understand the rotational mechanics that got them there.” Your posts should give everyone a more clear understanding of just what my students are dealing with.
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> > > > No offense intended Jeff, we just see the swing very differently.
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> > > > Jack Mankin
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> > > jack, I do not define linear as you do in whole. I am a big time rotational hitter and have been for over 30 years. Most rotational teachers, like myself, would define a linear hitter as a hitter who takes his body (His eyes and head) straight to the path of the ball. A guy that lunges, but , and let me say I agree with you on this, Not all long striders are linear. I do believe that the barrel takes a circular path but that path doesn't begin towards the catcher. I believe the stride transfers the weight back and that after this the body rotates around its center axis with a reverse C or lazy upside down "Y'...so jack, is it possible that maybe you and I are talking about the same thing???? in different terms and ways?
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> > I really believe that the 15-20 posters on the frequented sites know more about hitting instruction than those connected with mlb. I think this discussion points it out.
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> > A guy associated with baseball for 30+ years still can't define the things we talk about everyday. What's interesting about that is, the greatest hitters in the world are in mlb. Surrounde by guys who can't describe the mechanics.
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> > Jeff
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> > You stated something to the effect that mlb has trouble with HS and College players/coaches. I think mlb has trouble with the truth.
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> Well...now why does it have to become personal....obviously I know what i'm talking about...Maybe just maybe some insight should be given to the fact that not everyone uses the same terms and dialoge. But rest assurred I know what I'm talking about. I didn't say anyone had trouble with coaches( JACK said that), I said HS and college players struggle when they enter pro ball....WHY, because they have no idea what timing is nor do they have an idea as to what a short stroke is.....The greatest hitters in the game...well thats why their the greatest! Because they have great timing and unbelivable rhytmn....they could swing it many different ways and still hit balls out of ball parks and do....I have watched as Guearrro(Angels) hits balls that bounce one time before they get to the plate, out of the park. He is a free swinger and a bad ball hitter( well Bad for the avg.) I have watched as he has been fooled and made contact with just one hand on the bat and still hit balls out, I've also watched him be late on Fastballs and hit balls out down the Opp. field line, and ( oh Yes) I've watched him take a perfect swing and MISS. Has with all great hitters.....each has developed there own swing and mastered it through countless hours of practice.
> So before we get personal and attack someone....maybe you should ask more questions about some of my comments, because the greatest hitting instructors in the world are teaching hitting just as I've talked. And may I add Get paid Millions of Dollars to do so.
> I understand your alligence to Jacks principals, and I to would like to hear and learn them, but not at the expense of my character and knowledge in the game.....I can assure you that I can hold my own with anyone when it comes to baseball, but would rather take something or take many things from a man(Jack) that has spent many hours studying hitting.....Is that to much to ask?? and finally(hahaha) I have 19 explayers of mine playing in the big leagues as hitters. How many do you have??

"...obviously I know what i'm talking about..."

That says enough for me.

Video will show one thing. He believes something else. So, it must be the something else.

What does that say about the truth????