Posted by: tom.guerry (tom.guerry@kp.org) on Mon Nov 15 17:09:27 2004

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> > So,you have a plan for the pitch,and you see the pitch and you continue anticipation as you rotate into foot plant/start to wind the rubber band.At this point you have a windoww limited by how much the weight must shift forward and by how much body coil you can reliably control-much of this control comes by back leg flex at the knee.Then within this window you "commit" which means you "trigger" hip turn to max momentum velocity at a more specific time,usually past the point where you can check the swing.
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> You said......"So,you have a plan for the pitch,and you see the pitch and you continue anticipation as you rotate into foot plant/start to wind the rubber band."
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> There is no time for all of this. How can you start to wind the rubber band after you've seen the pitch?

Teacherman-Thanks for following up.

You are right that the rubber band winding is underway early.I did not mean to imply that the sequence was wind rubber band after pitch release.The point I was trying to make (poorly) was that there is ongoing refinement of anticipation with what might be akin to what Nyman describes as "feedforward" where the brain and peripheral distributed nervous system is constantly comparing "images" of what is expected based on past experience to realtime sensory input.

There is no time for sequential/in series execution of all the tasks that are necessary as in Adair's model of pitch recognition and swing execution.There has to be compression/many events in parallel/guessing/anticipation/reaction,etc.

However,I believe there is value in a plan.The goal of practice is to have the swing automated within the context of this plan so you can "see ball,hit ball",but that takes a lot of experience/training.

As Jack says,ballistic events can be significantly adjusted only very early on in the motion.I think the pre-pitch plane and the degree of the intended scap load phase and when you anticipate getting the front foot down can be visualized ahead of time/even practiced for a given pitcher in the on deck circle.Beyond that as mentioned by Nyman/at setpro you do not want conscious processes interfering with the swing and you want to be using the ambient visual system/swing when it feels right type approach.

Sequence wise,hip cock starts before release,hand cock/back scap pinch starts slightly after release.Rotation into foot plant starts before toe touch in many cases (assuming stride).Toe touch is slightly after the ball is halfway to plate for fastball