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Posted by: Ramon () on Sat Nov 13 06:58:19 2004

Bonds and Mcgwire were always pfo hitters and so was Ted Williams.
> > *******************************************************************
> > Flail - noun
> > "ancient hand tool for threshing grain. It consists of two pieces of wood: the handstaff, or helve, and the beater, joined by a thong. The handstaff is a light rod several feet long, the beater a shorter piece. "
> >
> > How in the world could it ever be a linear method of swinging??
> > Clearly to use a flail properly it would have to be swung in a circular motion. Understanding the physics of the flail will increase batspeed, ball compression and increase ball velocity off the bat.
> > Which I will save for another post.
>
> mb, Don't take the term "linear" so literally. Of course pure linearism in the dictionary sense of the word would mean a swing similar to making a shot in the game of pool. Obviously we don't mean that. Linear is thrusting the hands forward whereas rotation is the hands being in a circular hand path.As far as Mcgwire, Bonds and Williams are concerned, I agree they were PFO's and they were rotational. Certainly Carew was not as PFO and he was linear. You don't have to be a PFO to be rotational (e.g., Piazza), but there does seem to be a correlation between PFO mechanics and rotational mechanics. For the flail stuff, I won't comment because frankly I can't find anyone who can explain what it is, and I have never heard any baseball commentators use the term.It might be a term someone made up to describe something that meant something to them personally in their own way, I don't know. If I'm misinformed please let me know.

Im confused.My son's coach (9 & 10 year old AAU)teaches top hand torque but he is not a PFO.So is PFP compatible or not compatible with THT?

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> Bonds and Mcgwire were always pfo hitters and so was Ted Williams.
> > > *******************************************************************
> > > Flail - noun
> > > "ancient hand tool for threshing grain. It consists of two pieces of wood: the handstaff, or helve, and the beater, joined by a thong. The handstaff is a light rod several feet long, the beater a shorter piece. "
> > > 
> > > How in the world could it ever be a linear method of swinging??
> > > Clearly to use a flail properly it would have to be swung in a circular motion.  Understanding the physics of the flail will increase batspeed, ball compression and increase ball velocity off the bat.
> > > Which I will save for another post.
> > 
> > mb, Don't take the term "linear" so literally. Of course pure linearism in the dictionary sense of the word would mean a swing similar to making a shot in the game of pool. Obviously we don't mean that. Linear is thrusting the hands forward whereas rotation is the hands being in a circular hand path.As far as Mcgwire, Bonds and Williams are concerned, I agree they were PFO's and they were rotational. Certainly Carew was not as PFO and he was linear. You don't have to be a PFO to be rotational (e.g., Piazza), but there does seem to be a correlation between PFO mechanics and rotational mechanics. For the flail stuff, I won't comment because frankly I can't find anyone who can explain what it is, and I have never heard any baseball commentators use the term.It might be a term someone made up to describe something that meant something to them personally in their own way, I don't know. If I'm misinformed please let me know.
> 
> Im confused.My son's coach (9 & 10 year old AAU)teaches top hand torque but he is not a PFO.So is PFP compatible or not compatible with THT?

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