Posted by: Jack Mankin (MrBatspeed@aol.com) on Sat Nov 6 09:40:04 2004

>>> I am oblivious to Jack's sentiments about the idea that I am about to submit to him, but let's hope he is in the best of humors. What I propose is a candid discussion between Dr. Adair and Jack, calling into question both explanations of developing bat speed that has stirred up quite a bit of turbulence recently. I implore both to examine the validity of each other's points, scrutinize the ramifications carefully, and then present agreements or objections based on empirical evidence, how well physical laws supports each model, and how much material supports each theory (I am speaking of dissentions over how angular displacement is induced, rather than whether a model is linear or rotational. Jack, I am sure that Adair has access to the internet, so I am looking forward to an open debate between dissenters. This gives everyone a chance to offer their opinion as to whether they agree with Jack or not, and why. Jack, will you embrace the opportunity to contact Dr. Adair, and partake in suck a debate?

Hi BHL

Sounds fine with me. Would I be debating the revised version of Adair's swing model as now described by JJA, or his actual definition of the "whip effect" as presented in his book? -- Read my new post to Nick above.

Jack Mankin