Posted by: Shavon () on Wed Nov 3 16:32:23 2004

I have been researching the various hitting approaches over the last 3 months. I have read numerous books and seen numerous video tapes. I have visited this web site, as well as other sites including setpro, epstein, eteamz and several others. I have not spoken out until I had given a fair evaluation to all the approaches.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have concluded that this site makes the best case for the best hitting philosophy, which is rotational mechanics.I have nothing against the other sites. Maybe they even believe in the same things Jack does but simply can not articulate themselves in the way you all can. Count me in as a believer in top hand torque, bottom hand torque, circular hand path, heavy bag drill and all the rest. It is obvious to me that knob-to-ball and the other linear stuff at the other sites is not the way to go for my son. Again, I have nothing against the other sites, and their philosophy might be appropriate for hitters with a lot of speed who can beat out a ground ball. However my son is big and slow, and his best shot is with power, and it seems evident that rotational mechanics is the best approach for achieving power.Thank you for allowing me to air my views.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Gabe, good decision you made. I too chose to go with Jack's philosphy and it will pay off with a scholarship from UCLA. Apparently that offer caused some resentment with another poster, causing him to wonder who I was. I wish him no ill will. As a matter of fact, my suggestion to him is to put his nose to the grindstone, learning and practicing Jack's principles, and maybe he will get a scholarship too.
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> > > > > > > > > > I chose rotational mechanics at the end of my junior year.Things are going great, I would be surprised if I'm not a first round draft pick. If I would have stuck with linear I probably would have not even been looked at. Now all kinds of scouts have approached me. All credit goes to Jack.
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> > > > > > > > > Maybe you two should donate some of the money you will earn/save to Jack to thank him for his research if thats the case. It's only a matter of months until Brett is a multi millionaire.
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> > > > > > > > > You two have no clue do you... hitting is not the only thing looked at by scouts. Brett's post proved he is a liar because to be a first round talent you have to have more than one tool if you knew anything about baseball. You said you just started hitting rotationally after your junior year, well I doubt you have mastered it yet therefore I doubt you will be a first round talent if that is your only plus tool. Justin Upton, soon to be this years #1 pick, lets take a look at his tools. Plus bat speed, hits for power and average, runs a 6.2 60yd dash (Deion Sanders in his prime), smooth fielder with plus actions, and throws an easy 90+ across the infield. Please tell me how you stack up against him overall. Even if you are the Brett that is ranked in the Top100 in the country, you still are not going in the first round according to the scouting reports I just read.
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> > > > > > > > > Daryl you may have received a scholarship offer and if you did congratulations, but by the sound of your post it doesnt seem like it. Daryl, unfortunatly for you I will be getting money to play ball in college and even though I believe in Jacks principles and I thank him for all the information he has provided and all the research he has done to help me improve, he did not take thousands of swings a week for me.
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> > > > > > > > > If you really did sign with UCLA on a scholarship, I would hope you would have more character than to immediately come on a website and brag and to tell someone you don't even know to hit the grindstone and maybe that person will get lucky and get a scholarship too. That is what scouts and college coaches call "bad makeup," keep it to yourself.
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> > > > > > > > > I have been reading this board for two years and I have never seen posts like those before.
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> > > > > > > > Dave I don't know what your issue is. It seems like you feel bitter because there are guys out there who made it and you didn't. For your information, the minor leagues are packed with guys with speed. Yes, the old school thinking is to sign guys with the 5 tools.That is in a perfect world and there are just not that many Willie Mays or barry Bonds out there. In the end, the required tools, assuming you don't have all 5 depends on your position.If you play 1b, power is mandatory. If you play right field, power and a strong arm is what you need. But in the end, there is lot's of guys with speed from which to chose from but very few with the potential power of a Bonds. Therefore there is a premium on the power hitters, 5 tools or not. I play 1b, no speed, no arm but will probably be the next Barry Bonds, without the speed, of course. I don't know if I will go in the 1sr round or not, but certainly I will go by the 2nd round. And believe me, without the mechanics I learned from this site, I probably would be preparing for a career in medical technology. My advice to you is to not be concerned with guys who have out-successed you. I don't know how old you are, but I would be willing to bet that you still have time to turn things around. You just need to focus on yourself and what you can do for yourself. Good luck to you.
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> > > > > > > I didnt make it? I just started my senior year in high school, o crap all hope is lost. If you are all such big time draft picks please state your name, school you attend and home state. I have never seen first rounders brag like kids on here do, and I have seen plenty of them.
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> > > > > > > If you are going to take shots at me go ahead, you don't know me nor how good I am because I don't feel the need to announce it on a public website and claim I'm the next Barry Bonds. Shavon, please get over yourself.
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> > > > > > > If you are going to make claims and you play ball currently, atleast tell us who you play for, what you are ranked and provide a copy of your scouting report because if you are a first or second rounder you definitely have reports done on you so you can have some credibility. I'm done arguing with the likes of yourself Brett and Daryl, frankly I think you are all a little full of yourselves and it seems a little fishy how you all pop up at once on the same board claiming you will all be top draft picks and college signees.
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> > > > > > Dave you must feel bitter about something and I think you should get over it. Your are the one who popped out of the woodwork and started taking shots at the others. No one provoked you to start asking for our scouting reports.The others can speak for themselves, but I do not have to show my scouting reports to you just because you question my credibility. What audacity! From what I can see people were simply expressing their gratitude to Jack and you seem to be outraged that someone else is successful? Just remember, bud, no matter how good you are or think you are there will alway be someone else better than you, always. Don't take it so personally, just work on your own skills, and maybe you can make it too. P.S. many organizations also do a psychlogical profile, because to play at a higher level there is a lot of PRESSURE, and they want to be sure you have the right TEMPERMENT.
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> > > > > Excuse me Dave but try telling my 8 year old son that tht can't be learned in a few weeks. One weekend with us study Jack's dvd and my son went from a .100 hitter to a .600 hitter, plus the power he acquired.Can you imagine where he will be by high school?
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> > > > Fred I had the same experience with my son (he's a little older, 10 years old). We worked on it about a week between games, and he went from a 1-12 slump to 16-19 after learing top hand torque.He showed off his newly acquired skills to some of the guys on his team and soon the whole team was hitting better. HOWEVER, I also know a few parents that it took one about 3 months to teach, another his kid struggled for almost 6 months before getting the hang of it.I would say to Dave A to not get discouraged if it is taking him longer than others. Everyone learns at their own pace, but if Dave hangs in there he will succeed, just like thousands of others including major leaguers have.
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> > > Shavon still ignored my question as to who he is. Shavon I know all about what major league organizations do to profile their players, I have friends who have gone through the process. Since your the next Barry Bonds I would really like to know who you are, if you are going to make the statement that you will soon be the best hitter in the Major Leagues I would really like to know who you are and what school you play for.
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> > > Whoever said their son is an 8 year old that can hit .600, well guess what the pitchers get better too. I played in a tournament recently that had over 150 pitchers touch 90+ and the hitters hitting with wood. The competition gets better as you are older.
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> > > And who said I am not successful? You have never seen me play. Brandon, frankly I'm not discouraged.
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> > > Shavon where do you play? No one named Shavon is ranked highly on any of Baseball America's lists that could be the next Barry Bonds or that is going in the first round. I just want PROOF!
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> > > Why do you think I'm bitter when some random person comes on here claiming to be a first rounder but provides no proof and won't back up their statements? If you can back it up I will be glad to congratulate you.
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> > Dave, what does it take for you to understand? You are NOBODY whom I need to give PROOF. I don't have to back up anything to satisy you and I am NOT looking for your congratulations.I am not out to to show that I am better than you, because you are not the decision-maker of my baseball future. If you are not discouraged or bitter, then that's great for you.You are the one who popped out of nowhere, unprovoked and started spouting off that you did not learn top hand torque in a short period of time. You were the one who at least appeared to be jealous that someone else moght be a quicker learner than you.Now, again, read me loud and clear: I am not looking for your approval or congratulations, I do not need to provide you with my resume or scouting report, and I do not care who you believe or don't believe.
> > Now, why don't we focus on what is really important and that is a discussion of how top hand torque has helped thousands of hitetrs and how top hand torque can help thousands more. Remember, through word of mouth you, me and the thousands of others who practice rotational principles can all spread the word. I'm sure you will agree with me that rotation, not linear, bow arch or any of that other stuff is the future of hitters who want to hit with both high batting average and power, to cf, the pull field and the opposite field, and against all pitches, inside, outside, high and low. Agreed?
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> Shavon, I am mad because you claimed you are the next Barry Bonds. I am the only one here amazed at that statement? I hope not. That is why I want credibility from these people because they are not claiming normal "I improved my batting average and I'm a better hitter now" success stories, they are claiming they went from average JC player to big scholy D1 players in a matter of days it seems or like you saying that they are the next Barry Bonds.
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> How can anyone be expected to be believed when making outrageous statements like those without credibility is the question I have.
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> I agree THT is a great discovery and wonder even more how Bonds Sosa and other started using it after most likely being taught different for many years.

Dave, I am going to say this one more time, and then I am not going to respond any further on this silly issue of yours. You said "I want credibility from these people". For the LAST TIME, I am NOT OBLIGATED to prove my credibility to you, and I DON'T CARE if you believe or don't believe I am the next Barry Bonds. If you are really that interested in my background, go talk with the scouts of at least 21 major league baseball teams, but don't talk with me anymore on this subject because I will not respond.By the way, don't burn your bridges because there could be a day in the future when you may be asking for my autograph.