Posted by: Jim Ecc () on Mon Nov 1 08:03:47 2004

>>>> I hope this has made some sense, Regards, Rich<<<<
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> Rich,
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> Good post.
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> Particularly:
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> >>>the uncocking of the bottom hand wrist is like casting with a fishing pole. when you're getting ready to cast and the pole is over your shoulder your wrist is cocked. when you whip the pole forward you uncock your wrist as the pole travels over and forward.<<<
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> and
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> >>>The top hand is being rotated back by the forearm muscles rotating the hand.(into the palm up position) this is the opposite force on the bat from the uncocking of the bottom wrist.<<<
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> and
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> >>>i can lower my back elbow and not apply THT.<<<
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> and
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> >>>...i'll coin the phrase WHT(wrist hand torque...<<<
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> Arguement against has it that the wrists/hands cocking/uncocking are a by-product.
> That the wrist muscles (and forearm muscles) cannot contribute a whole helluva lot.
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> BUT THEY DO.
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> I’ve tried to go down this path before, here at batspeed [“discussion board down again” wiped it out] and at hitting-mechanics.org, but no takers. It is extremely involved, and quite frankly I don’t have the inclination to try again. But for those eggheads that do, - go to “Google” and type in ‘interaction torques’.
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> ray porco
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I guess having to use "frame by frame" and even as one poster did using somekind of advanced modality to determine THT, WHT or whatever is behind the forces of the swings of the great ones drives my point home.

THT (whatever actions?) are not something so easily detected by viewers watching TV, a slow mo or a live swing. Certainly not enough to make bold statements that lack of THT (or whatever else you call it?)was the direct demise of the Cardinals against the Red Sox. Especially when using Pujols as an example of such a failure to execute something difficult to see.

My Ichiro questions in reference to THT have been left completely unanswered here...why is that?

Maybe November will bring those answers?