Posted by: Teacherman () on Sun Jun 13 21:28:17 2004

>>> Scap loading is to take out slack so that rotation is better and faster as the scap unloads. <<<
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> > > Hi Teacherman
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> > > This could be a historic first, you and I may actually agree on something.
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> > > Jack Mankin
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> > And it involves both scaps. One adducts and one abducts. IOW, take the slack out of both. I suppose this means you agree the scap load concept is separate from your tht concept and thus not something Nyman pirated?
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> Whoever:
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> It appears that a few people are trying to define scap loading, which is a welcome change. I do not agree with your concept that that one scap adducts and one scap abducts in order to take out the slack. Lead shoulder rotation usually trails the pulling back of the rear shoulder/forearm/hand. These movements act somewhat independently. Even so, you need to be more specific when referring to a scap abducting/adducting since it is all in relation to the center line of the body. Thus, if the back shoulder on a right handed hitter is horizontally abducting (pulling back) and passes perpendicular of the center line (line between the chest and the back bone), it begins adducting as it rotates toward the center of the back. For these reasons, I believe that scap loading is a poor term since it confusing to most observers and must always be prefaced with qualifiers in reference to center line. I personally would not accept/use the term since it is merely a complicated way of saying (horizontal) shrugging or shoulder pull, which players and coaches have been using of years, and readily understand.
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> With respect to your claim that it is different than THT, state what forces scap loading puts on the handle of the bat. I can then tell you if it is something different than THT. We have been asking for this clarification for many months, yet nobody seems to answer this seemingly simple question. It is has always been my belief that scap loading means that the rear shoulder is horizontally rotating toward the back bone and, therefore, causing the rear forearm and hand to pull on the bat. Of course, I might be wrong because the author and/or his followers have not been answered this question (on a public forum).
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> Brian
> BatSpeed.com
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When will you get off this "what forces does it apply to the handle of the bat" kick? Does a hip load apply a force to the handle? How about a stride? How about a nostride. What about a weight shift back before rotation?

There are movements that load or stretch or prepare for forces to be applied.

Will you guys go to your grave claiming scap load = THT????

How many times to you have to be told they are completely different.

And, shrugging of the shoulders is not a scap load.