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Posted by: Dale () on Wed May 5 06:21:08 2004

7 out of 7 Trenton Thunder players (asked) denied any understanding whatsoever of torque as applied/encountered to/with the baseball swing. They agree/understand that the shoulder/hip coiling type effect generally gets them into the load/pre-launch position, but some (3) insisted that their swing is initiated by an inward kick of the lead knee...which then starts the shoulder turn, which then moves the bat handle almost straight back (towards 3B if RH hitter) not back towards catcher. The back movement varies, but roughly 5 inches on average. All agree that the lead/lower arm/hand brings the bat into position...with the top/right hand/arm/bicep taking over just before contact. All 7 players demonstrated very good swings, with 3/4 speed tempo driving the ball clear of wall, and into parking lot. In closing all 7 also agreed that OS FB is generally hit to opposite field...with substantially more reach.
> > > > > Jeff M
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jeff M,
> > > >
> > > > I saw clips of professional players pulling outside pitches for home runs. I am sure that if hits were directed towards any other fields, they would have registered as an out. Yet, if hitting to all fields is successful for some individuals, they should continue to do so.
> > > >
> > > > BHL
> > > >
> > > > P.S. I still advocate attempting to pull every pitch.
> > >
> > > Don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion.
> >
> > At least he backs up his opinions with logic. I never see you express an opinion other than to say you disagree with everyone and everything. No facts or logic, you just growl at everyone until you manage to get in the last insult. I have an idea, Teacherman, why don't you make just ONE post articulating a concept pertaining to hitting a baseball and let's see how good you are in defending your ideas (if you have any).
>
> Deal.................
>
> A hitter who tries to pull every outside pitch will never reach his potential. He'll eventually be the easiest out on the team as he goes up the skill level ladder. Give me a solid pitcher with above average velocity, a good curve ball and a good change up and he'll sit down on strike 3, ground out to short or secondbase, and hit lazy fly balls at a rate so fast that he'll soon have to sit the bench.
>
> How's that?...........

All you did was express what your HUNCH is. You did not say WHY he would be the easiest out.You did not base your hunch on anything other than your OPINION. No science, no evidence, nothing. Sorry, you flunk the test.

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> 7 out of 7 Trenton Thunder players (asked) denied any understanding whatsoever of torque as applied/encountered to/with the baseball swing.  They agree/understand that the shoulder/hip coiling type effect generally gets them into the load/pre-launch position, but some (3) insisted that their swing is initiated by an inward kick of the lead knee...which then starts the shoulder turn, which then moves the bat handle almost straight back (towards 3B if RH hitter) not back towards catcher.  The back movement varies, but roughly 5 inches on average.  All agree that the lead/lower arm/hand brings the bat into position...with the top/right hand/arm/bicep taking over just before contact.  All 7 players demonstrated very good swings, with 3/4 speed tempo driving the ball clear of wall, and into parking lot.  In closing all 7 also agreed that OS FB is generally hit to opposite field...with substantially more reach.
> > > > > > Jeff M 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi Jeff M,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I saw clips of professional players pulling outside pitches for home runs.  I am sure that if hits were directed towards any other fields, they would have registered as an out.  Yet, if hitting to all fields is successful for some individuals, they should continue to do so.
> > > > > 
> > > > > BHL
> > > > > 
> > > > > P.S.  I still advocate attempting to pull every pitch.  
> > > > 
> > > > Don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion.
> > > 
> > > At least he backs up his opinions with logic. I never see you express an opinion other than to say you disagree with everyone and everything. No facts or logic, you just growl at everyone until you manage to get in the last insult. I have an idea, Teacherman, why don't you make just ONE post articulating a concept pertaining to hitting a baseball and let's see how good you are in defending your ideas (if you have any).
> > 
> > Deal.................
> > 
> > A hitter who tries to pull every outside pitch will never reach his potential.  He'll eventually be the easiest out on the team as he goes up the skill level ladder.  Give me a solid pitcher with above average velocity, a good curve ball and a good change up and he'll sit down on strike 3, ground out to short or secondbase, and hit lazy fly balls at a rate so fast that he'll soon have to sit the bench.
> > 
> > How's that?...........
> 
> All you did was express what your HUNCH is. You did not say WHY he would be the easiest out.You did not base your hunch on anything other than your OPINION. No science, no evidence, nothing. Sorry, you flunk the test.

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