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Posted by: grc () on Mon Apr 26 06:36:26 2004

>>> I am a college baseball player in Gainesville, FL and I was wondering if you could give me your take on the swing. I have been taught by my coaches here to swing down to the ball (Griffy tee) to generate backspin. I also work with a Rockies hitting coach back at home and he tells me to have a "short to it long through it" linear swing (arms) but a rotary core (hips, sholders, torso). I can hit both ways but consistancy is my major problem. I'm 6'0" 180lbs and I'm a gap to gap hitter. How can I generate more power to turn some of my balls hitting the fence into homeruns?
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> Thank you for your time, <<<
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> Hi Greg
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> Rotational transfer mechanics can generate much greater bat speed than linear mechanics. And, rotational hitters dominate both the power and average stats in both leagues. I would suggest you read as much material on the site as possible and then make up your mind which route to take.
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> Bart (grc) would have you believe that rotational hitters can hit with power but not for a high batting average. Then he says “i don't want to hear any stuff from anyone about "what about bonds, williams, mantle, aaron" and other great hitters who had power AND average.” - Greg, you could add to that list Mays, Brett and a few other rotational hitters who not only hit with great power, but who also won league batting titles. --- Of course, Bart (grc) would want you to discount these great rotational hitters, how could anyone look at that list and still maintain – rotational batters can’t hit for both power and average.
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> Bart (grc) then states, “linearism gives you slightly more time before you have to commit yourself to the swing, but you then sacrifice power....rotation (more bat cock) causes you to commit yourself earlier,” -- Greg, that it is pure bunk. Once the batter has committed to the swing, good rotational hitters require nearly a full video frame (1/30 of a sec.) less time to bring the bat to contact than linear hitters. His statement “(you need the extra time to "uncock") occurs during pre-launch movements (pre-launch torque) which takes place before initiation and the batter is committed to the swing.
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> Greg, pre-launch torque, initiation and top-hand-torque are discussed at length in the selected posts on the “Swing Mechanics Page.”
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> Jack Mankin
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jack, in the past i have went into great detail justifying my analysis, but i suspect that at best you glanced at it, picked out a few concepts that were at odds with your own preconceived notions & therefore didmissed them out of hand....the irony is that it is your unwillingness to yield on one point (that possibly except for a handful of exceptional hitters power hitters do sacrifice some average and vice versa)that prevents you from understanding that my overall analysis complements your theory rather than conflicting with your theory...a lot of my theory helps to put together missing , unexplained or incomplete elements of your theory.....anyway, as always, thanks for you giving the chance to me and others to express our view, regardless of whether our view is in agreement or disagreement with yours....i still maintain that this is the BEST site out there....respectfully, grc....

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> >>> I am a college baseball player in Gainesville, FL and I was wondering if you could give me your take on the swing. I have been taught by my coaches here to swing down to the ball (Griffy tee) to generate backspin. I also work with a Rockies hitting coach back at home and he tells me to have a "short to it long through it" linear swing (arms) but a rotary core (hips, sholders, torso). I can hit both ways but consistancy is my major problem. I'm 6'0" 180lbs and I'm a gap to gap hitter. How can I generate more power to turn some of my balls hitting the fence into homeruns? 
> > 
> > Thank you for your time, <<<
> > 
> > Hi Greg
> > 
> > Rotational transfer mechanics can generate much greater bat speed than linear mechanics. And, rotational hitters dominate both the power and average stats in both leagues. I would suggest you read as much material on the site as possible and then make up your mind which route to take.
> > 
> > Bart (grc) would have you believe that rotational hitters can hit with power but not for a high batting average. Then he says “i don't want to hear any stuff from anyone about "what about bonds, williams, mantle, aaron" and other great hitters who had power AND average.”  - Greg, you could add to that list Mays, Brett and a few other rotational hitters who not only hit with great power, but who also won league batting titles. --- Of course, Bart (grc) would want you to discount these great rotational hitters, how could anyone look at that list and still maintain – rotational batters can’t hit for both power and average. 
> > 
> > Bart (grc) then states, “linearism gives you slightly more time before you have to commit yourself to the swing, but you then sacrifice power....rotation (more bat cock) causes you to commit yourself earlier,”  -- Greg, that it is pure bunk. Once the batter has committed to the swing, good rotational hitters require nearly a full video frame (1/30 of a sec.) less time to bring the bat to contact than linear hitters. His statement “(you need the extra time to "uncock") occurs during pre-launch movements (pre-launch torque) which takes place before initiation and the batter is committed to the swing. 
> > 
> > Greg, pre-launch  torque, initiation and top-hand-torque are discussed at length in the selected posts on the “Swing Mechanics Page.”
> > 
> > Jack Mankin
> > 
> > 
> jack, in the past i have went into great detail justifying my analysis, but i suspect that at best you glanced at it, picked out a few concepts that were at odds with your own preconceived notions & therefore didmissed them out of hand....the irony is that it is your unwillingness to yield on one point (that possibly  except for a handful of exceptional hitters power hitters do sacrifice some average and vice versa)that prevents you from understanding that my overall analysis complements your theory rather than conflicting with your theory...a lot of my theory helps to put together missing , unexplained or incomplete elements of your theory.....anyway, as always, thanks for you giving the chance to me and others to express our view, regardless of whether our view is in agreement or disagreement with yours....i still maintain that this is the BEST site out there....respectfully, grc....

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