Posted by: Doug () on Wed Apr 21 09:31:51 2004

>>> However, you should note that dead pull hitting requires the bat-head to rotate 45 degrees past a normal centerfield position. This is how I came up with the 225 degree arc. <<<
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> > > Hi BHL
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> > > I sincerely do not mean this to be cruel, but you should stick to English Literature because you obviously do not have a good grasp of geometry. Rotating the bat 45 degrees past perpendicular (from hitting the ball straight away) would NOT pull the ball down the third base line (“dead pull”, as you referred to it). Having the bat at 45 degrees would cause the ball to exit the bat parallel with the back of the plate or the back-stop. This means it would be hit 45 degrees to the left of the third base foul line.
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> > > BHL, the correct use of geometry would have told you that the maximum amount the bat could be rotated past perpendicular and still hit the ball fair would be 22.5 degrees. But, due to the “hooking effect” generated from impacting the outside part of the ball, about 17 to 19 degrees past perpendicular is closer to the actual maximum.
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> > > Jack Mankin
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> > I wonder how many real good hitters even know how to spell geometry? If you want to be taken seriously as a hitter or hitting coach, acting like a nerd won't do it. Using math to talk about the swing is very nerdish and won't teach anyone how to make a good swing. A good swing is not complicated, but some people want to reinvent the wheel, and that is what is happening with BHL. You never answered Teacherman's question, and never answered any of my questions.Talking about Mel Ott and how he hits is nonsense when there are about 3 clips of Ott in existance. Bonds uses a 34" 31 1/2 oz bat and chokes up 2 inches. I doubt very much if he thinks much about geometry.
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> > Doug
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> > Hi Doug,
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> What is your take, then, on "The Science of Hitting?" Obviously, it is the first book that argues that the hitter is relegated to physical laws, regardless of whether or not he or she chooses to acknowledge them.
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> While my geometric model still needs revision, at least I am cementing my information in reality, rather than gut premonitions.
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> Furthermore, Mark McGwire and Barry Bonds have, on numerous occassions, gave credence to the mental aspect of hitting. In order hit to the pull field consistently, you have to, according to Williams know your strike zone. All three players were cerebral, and aware of their statistics. In fact, I believe the mental perserverance allowed Mac to make the all century team.
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> Doug, your entire post is based on ignorance, and choosing to pretend natural laws do not exist--or calling those who analyze them "nerds"--does not weaken my theory; it makes my theory that much stronger, since you fail to counter any of my information quantitatively.
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> Regards,
> BHL
> Knight1285@aol.com
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> P.S. Jack, on the other hand, believes that, when the ball pulled, the contact angle is variablistic in relation to speed, and pitch location. I am intrigued as to why he believes this, and would be delighted if he furnish his argument with a few illustrations.

BHL, Actually, most of your posts are based on ignorance of the swing. I have almost 25 years of tape that says great hitters don't try to pull every pitch. You still have not answered Teacherman's question or any of my questions. I will offer you the same challange that Teacherman offered you.

Doug