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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: More learnings from golf-the Hogan swing


Posted by: Coach C () on Sat Feb 7 22:29:00 2004


Nice points coach C.
>
> Ultimately feel is very unique and difficult to communicate.It happens with far
> greater "resolution" than can be studies visually or even electrically (as in
> muscle contractio/EMG traces).
>
> As Nyman points out,motor learning and skill acquisition are a trial and error
> process that will result from your abilities,your goal(conscious or not) and the
> environment you act in(and have the opportunity to partly structure).The
> question is how to guide/accelerate/compress learning by "guardrails" or
> other boundaries that will successfully shape and guide the learning process.
>
> Nyman describes the "flow" in terms of load-unload (same for throwing as in
> the recent video presentation at best of setpro forum).
>
> Aaron desribed loading in hitting as coiling without taking much of a
> backswing.
>
> From the load/unload perspective,you have as consistent a swing as possible
> and adjust primarily by varying posture and degree of load.Everyone's
> perception is different as far as where they feel things and what is consciously
> felt as opposed to what is automatic/subconscious.However,there are still
> guardrails that are recognized as boundaries that must be adhered to.Certian
> sequences and positions and relative timing of parts,etc that are a necessary
> part of learning/preparing for skill execution that are derived from analysing
> what the greats have in common.
>
>
> Jones and Hogan emphasize different aspects.If you read the summary of the
> xfactor stretch article,you need position AND flow at the top/on the way
> down.Jones was more about flow.Hogan more about position.
>
> Also browse through the manuel de la Torre golf book if you get a chance.
>
> He has very interesting ways of communicating feel and reconciling it with
> video/motion(still inaccurately as he overly minimizes weight shift,yet shows
> the center of the backswing being behind the center of the forward swing).He
> has a very club trajectory centric view of the flow/swing feel which I think you
> might agree with.Feel-wise he describes it as the hands leading the
> backswing and the arms leading the downswing(and he describes what he
> means by leading in an interesting way).
>
> In summary,it is ultimately about trial and error and a unique individual's feel/
> solution for the given task/goal.But there are a lot of observable boundaries
> that can help get and keep you in the envelope.


As always, I appreciate your insights. Good post! I will take your suggestion and read the book. Awesome!!

Thanks,

Coach C


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