Posted by: toti () on Thu Jan 22 02:36:10 2004

Started my then 11-yr old son about 6 mos ago on the rotational program advocated by so many. He started out as a good contact hitter, but little power... the victim of several (!) flaws in his swing.
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> > > Now, his swing is completely "retooled" and he has gained a great deal of power and batspeed. He's also completely eliminated the stride, to the point where he pretty much just lifts the heal and drops it as he initiates hip rotation.
> > > Thus far, it's a huge improvement in his hitting, but one thing we're noticing is quite a few line drives and hot grounders as oppossed to hits with a little trajectory to them. Granted, we don't want high fly-balls, but we would like to see a few more long drives instead of hot singles...
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> > > Ideas? Comments? Suggestions? I know it's tough without seeing the swing, and I don't have access to filming (a'la Sandman and his wonderful graphics!), but if we assume his swing is largely correct, what typically causes grounders and liners?
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> > > Hey Dittoz,
> > Glad to hear you made the switch. first thing i'd look at would be to see if his rear elbow is leaving his side prior to contact on middle in pitches. and second i'd look at his launch position... 1) are his hands back near the armpit area. 2) is he starting the movement of the bathead back behind him at heel touch, allowing the bat to arc around into the plan of the pitch. 3)keep his hands near his armpit during the initial rotation of the shoulders... droping them perpendicular to the flight of the ball. not towards the pitcher.
> > use a video to detect these. best of luck, Rich
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> Thanks Rich, toti, et al;
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> Tim hits the ball well and more than likely IS ahead of the pitch. I suspect that has something to do with it, since when using one of the ultra-light bats he hits a lot of hot shots, and when he takes Whiffle BP with a wood bat, they tend to be more of the "trajectory shots". A heavier bat WOULD slow him down a little.
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> He's gotten in the habit of starting his stance in the #1 position of Epstein's numbers drill, with the bat against his rear upper bicep. He drops the heal and the hands stay in as he pulls the bat thru with the head trailing. Extension occurs out past the plate, and I don't think at this point that he -ever- has his arms completely extended. He does a good job naturally of locking the front leg and the rear leg hits a good "L" at contact witht he hips not quite at the full open point. Seems like he is maximizing the concept of the hips leading, but his eyes have to get used to the new and improved hands...
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> Haven't yet video'd him as I don't have Sandman's dream digital film rig and vast production studio, but I will 8mm-film him this spring. At 12, I don't think this is a huge issue, and as toti said, in 6mos, he's come a LONG way. Believe me, we've done a lot of work over the winter!

hi di..

Epstein is best for children. He will have time to “complicate” his swing as he faces tougher pitching later in life. Get him to stick to the basics and he will cruise.

One thing though, i usually have the temptation to go back to lighter bats because i “feel” more comfortable as in “linear”. Lighter bats will cause to use hands as opposed to heavier bats will cause to use body as in “trully rotational”. Dont give in to lighter bats because they are the “desease”. However, the heavy bat he should feel comfortable with.

toti