Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Doug Son's Swing
Posted by: Coach C ( ) on Tue Jan 6 10:31:18 2004
Doug where can I view it? Is he on Nick's page now?
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> > > > Doug,
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> > > > I mean this is the nicest of ways, because I want all kids to succeed, regardless of my opinions, but here goes. I was not aware that was your kid, when the original post was made, but even then I recognized some problems.
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> > > > Jack stated back then....that his swing was just another average swing. I don not agree with that statement, because clearly he is having success. My assesment at the time was that he inside/out's the ball/V-shapes the swing and casts the bat late in the swing. I still maintain this analysis, but upon knowing this was your boy i wanted to take a further look. He most definitly sways his hips....in other words he cocks his hips incorrectly.
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> > > > Having said all of that.......I'm not here to bash your boy....he probably will go places that I've never been, but at some point...in my opinion.....he will need a swing change. I'd offer my help, but we already know you disagree with me....so scrap that idea. Let's just say I wish him the absolute best of luck and I hope he lives his dreams!!!
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> > > > I work with a kid right now in AAA that sways (which is a power loss), he is doing amazing things right now in BP, since we've made the changes to his foot action. 2 years ago, he was minor league batting champion, but wanted these changes, because he needed more power to be considered by his parent club. He'll play for the Phillies organization next year!
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> > > I don't know what's worse. Your ego or your hitting advice. If you claim there is hip sway in that swing your exposing yourself. The hips sway if they go forward after heel plant which is the beginning of rotation. Whatever you claim to see in this swing is simply part of his style and has nothing to do with his technique.
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> > He sways before foot plant, which incorrectly turns the back knee and forces hands to go straight to the ball. I think he needs to quiet his legs. This boy is a good hitter, but probably strikes out way more than he needs to. He would do better if he let the ball come to him. He also has more power available than what he is getting.....but don't we all...except you probably. Supposedly he is a Jack Mankin student......I don't see it at all, but it doesn't mean I don't think he's a good kid. He is not rotational in my opinion.
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> > Good Day Lamber...and try to relax! Sorry if my ego offends you, but it shouldn't if you're secure with your own. Jab! Jab!
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> Ridiculous assessment. He's not rotational? Please....The elbow is solidly slotted, there is no forward movement of the lower body after heel drop, the hands stay at the arm pit area throughout the swing and into contact, and the torso's rotation powers the swing (not the arms). Sounds rotational to me.
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> Any sway before foot plant is irrelevant. It's called stride, timing and rhythm. There is no connection between the back knee and hands going linear other than it's relationship to pitch location. Do you know this pitches location and speed? You say he doesn't let the ball get deep....you'll make this conclusion on seeing one clip? Where was the pitch? How was his timing? Did he have to adjust? And do you know he wasn't working on pulling the ball? Or hitting it to a certain location?
I can't tell what he was working on, but from the shadow in the backround it must have been around high noon. Excuse me.....coffee just went through my nose........That kind of hurt! Thanks a lot Lamber!
Coach C
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