| Re: Re: starting the swing with legs 
 
 
 
 hi all> >
 > > i experimented with my legs. i started with legs first and then the whole
 kinetic chain. and  it worked! tremendous bat speed and power. at the
 beginning it was hard to time the pitch and it looked weird but once you get it
 down you start hitting like jeter. it is amazing. i cant wait to try against live
 pitching. i dont know if i will be able to time pithes this way but i have to try it. it
 feels good and connected now. i still struggle at times with keeping hands
 back as my body rotates.
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 > Worked with my son today on same thing. Loading the shoulders
 (independant of arm and hand muscles) into a weighted, bent knee, toe
 touch, opening the hips/toe and firing the front side open at heel drop
 launching the bat. Keeping the hands passive until the hip turn brings them
 out naturally. Got a great tip about keeping the top hand in front of the rear
 elbow as the elbow goes to slot position. It all works well when you can pull it
 off. Had him focused on getting the bat barrel out into the contact zone rather
 than swing toward the pitcher. I too thank all for the imput. I feel like we are
 getting there too. Special thanks to Jack and a Happy New Year
 > >
 
 Donny- You might try this and see if it works well enough to try on your son.
 
 Jack uses the top hand only drill as one way of learning the feel of the circular
 handpath/learning to break the habit/feel of  "top hand dominance".
 
 rql and others have described how the position of the back elbow varies in the
 slot for inside vs outside.For inside,the elbow is down more and closer to the
 side at launch.For outside/longer swing radius/higher load the back elbow is
 higher and more away from the side.Jack describes how this can come from a
 slightly different angle/direction of torque application between the hands.
 
 After the one hand top hand drill,jack recommends adding BHT with the lead
 arm as you then go to a 2 handed drill.
 
 I would describe THT(?kinesiologically?) as being primarily applied by
 externally rotating the back arm to drop the elbow to the slot.To do this
 requires first getting the back arm internally rotated (hitching hands as the
 front knee turns in with stride lift/ hip cocking) then keeping the back arm
 internally rotated as you "hide the hands" by pinching the back scap("pinch
 and lift" as stride foot goes out).This cocks/centers the bat using the big
 muscles and then you can keep the scap loaded/continue loading as the bat
 uncocks via external rotation of the back arm into the slot.
 
 Given this info,you can practice the 2 handed BHT drill starting with the back
 elbow down and in close to the side for inside location.Back arm will be fully
 externally rotated,and back scap still loaded.This would emphasize BHT
 more.
 
 Then for outside where THT is more important /applied longer prior to
 launch,you can start with the back elbow up and back scap loaded (back scap
 more "preloaded" the wider the stance/smaller the stride),then start your
 swing for the outside location by externally rotating the back arm from this
 position as you set a longer swing radius with the back elbow higher and
 further away from the side when you launch/pull with the lead arm.
 
 See if this makes sense to you.
 
 
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