Bat Speed -- Baseball Hitting Forum

Posted by: toti (pen) on Thu Dec 4 03:29:52 2003

Andy,
>
> From this angle, I cannot tell if your hips/shoulders/head are still sliding after heel plant. It'd be nice if the angle were truly perpendicular to home plate. Also, I lose the bat in frame 18 (but it's visible again in 19).
>
> I realize that not everyone will/should exhibit the same swing characteristics, as well as that there is much more to "hitting" than the "swing" itself. With the success you're enjoying, I'm not sure what your goal of posting clips is? Are you wanting to hit for more power? If so, then perhaps some improvements can be made. If you're pleased w/ your current production, then why change anything? I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm genuinely trying to learn your goals.
>
> Seeing you like Gonzo better than Soriano for comparison purposes:
>
> http://members.cox.net/dsanda/Andy/Andy%20vs.%20Gonzo%20-%20planes,%20axes,%20hands%20height.jpg
>
> Though your pitch is lower than his, the way you go down and get it is quite different. You drop your hands to reach it because your axis is very upright for a thigh-high pitch. This makes your swing plane as you come into contact much flatter than what Gonzo's is on a slightly higher (belt-high) pitch. On this particular pitch, not only did you still manage to make contact, but you did so on the bottom part of the ball - hence the HR.
>
> Do you consistently make good contact like this on low pitches though? If you do, then again I'd ask, "What are you trying to improve upon then?". But if not, then perhaps the mismatch of your swing plane to the pitch plane is contributing to that and I would think that a less upright axis, coupled with a lower rear shoulder, would help.
>
> Sandman

hi sandman

great point

I seem to have the same problem. Though everything looks rotational in my swing, i seem to hit with my hands specially off speed stuff. Even fast balls too. I dont know the remedy to this. I have tried everything with little success. It is true though that with rotational you can “buy” time and adjust but most of the time specially high strikes, i go linear and hit with hands. Thats the difference between real pros and us, amateurs. Pros hit the ball hard because they “learn to wait”.

The only time i am trully rotatational is with the wiffle machine because i know the pithc that is coming.

great post

toti

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> Andy,
> > 
> > From this angle, I cannot tell if your hips/shoulders/head are still sliding after heel plant.  It'd be nice if the angle were truly perpendicular to home plate.  Also, I lose the bat in frame 18 (but it's visible again in 19).
> > 
> > I realize that not everyone will/should exhibit the same swing characteristics, as well as that there is much more to "hitting" than the "swing" itself.  With the success you're enjoying, I'm not sure what your goal of posting clips is?  Are you wanting to hit for more power?  If so, then perhaps some improvements can be made.  If you're pleased w/ your current production, then why change anything?  I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm genuinely trying to learn your goals.
> > 
> > Seeing you like Gonzo better than Soriano for comparison purposes:  
> > 
> > http://members.cox.net/dsanda/Andy/Andy%20vs.%20Gonzo%20-%20planes,%20axes,%20hands%20height.jpg
> > 
> > Though your pitch is lower than his, the way you go down and get it is quite different.  You drop your hands to reach it because your axis is very upright for a thigh-high pitch.  This makes your swing plane as you come into contact much flatter than what Gonzo's is on a slightly higher (belt-high) pitch.  On this particular pitch, not only did you still manage to make contact, but you did so on the bottom part of the ball - hence the HR.  
> > 
> > Do you consistently make good contact like this on low pitches though?  If you do, then again I'd ask, "What are you trying to improve upon then?".  But if not, then perhaps the mismatch of your swing plane to the pitch plane is contributing to that and I would think that a less upright axis, coupled with a lower rear shoulder, would help.
> > 
> > Sandman
> 
> 
> 
> hi sandman
> 
> great point
> 
> I seem to have the same problem. Though everything looks rotational in my swing, i seem to hit with my hands specially off speed stuff. Even fast balls too. I dont know the remedy to this. I have tried everything with little success. It is true though that with rotational you can “buy” time and adjust but most of the time specially high strikes, i go linear and hit with hands. Thats the difference between real pros and us, amateurs. Pros hit the ball hard because they “learn to wait”.
> 
> The only time i am trully rotatational is with the wiffle machine because i know the pithc that is coming.
> 
> 
> great post
> 
> toti

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