Posted by: dbc () on Tue Nov 25 13:18:55 2003

> Great response! You are correct, a person CAN learn from the written word and VISUALIZE in their mind. I learned a tremendous amount about rotational hitting through reading Tom Guerry's many posts on the Fastpitch Forum. Now understand, Tom's stuff takes some time to digest, but once I began catching on and Visualizing what I was reading, my understanding of rotational hitting really took off. Then add the knowledge this site offers through Jack Mankin and from Mike Epstein's site, a detailed picture begins to form. The purchase of Epstein's tapes helped tremendously and I plan on purchasing Jack's tapes, as well.
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> But, it all began with someone taking the time to write and convey their knowledge. This site, along with a few others, are invaluable to the learning process. This is a great site!
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Slapper- while you agreed whole heartedly with the guy who supports using visualization from written responses. You further state -"Tom's written stuff took you some time to digest" ...then you go on to add how valuable Epstein's "videos" were etc.

Rhetorical question for you:
Did you order the tapes AFTER you read the written stuff or before?
Careful Slapper...Either answer gets you caught in a catch 22 doesn't it?

If you bought tapes before you read written info on the swing then any visualization you comprehended quite possibly came from the visual tapes. You can't argue that possibility? If you bought the tapes AFTER reading the info then would it be safe to say you needed more accurate visualization than just the written word? That assumption is also very real!

Is it possible you really needed to just "see" all that scientific stuff in action verses trying to visualize it from the written word?

Can't say for anyone else but I don't buy an instructional tape to show me something I can fully understand in writing?

So you see- we actually agree that "seeing is believing" and I'll agree further with you that if anything "written" here sparked your interest in seeing it on tape...great!

If you go back to my original comments on this whole issue it was that I strongly believe just giving written responses, especially those filled with anatomical/scientific/biomechanical references to posters looking for help with their swings...is inadequate at best.

Now, I don't own Jack's tapes and maybe Jack doesn't want to self promote his tapes on this site which is admirable. But I am sure they are filled with excellent visuals and trouble shooting tips so wouldn't it be best, wouldn't this forum REALLY be beneficial, to those in search of elusive answers; if when posters come on asking for "bits and pieces" of help...somebody here refers that poster to purchase such visual tapes instead of dragging them through the grind and guessing game of visualizing it through someone else's words?

The real teacher in me sees this as the simplest solution to those trying to find "Swinging" answers on this forum. Something tells me- much more educated responses will follow????