Posted by: donny buster (donnybstr@aol.com) on Fri Oct 31 14:16:02 2003

Coach C asked the question as to what I thought about bat lag. It's an interesting concept that first requires a definition. To me, bat lag is when the barrel of the bat escapes the rotational axis thus getting outside the hands. A great swing has the shaft of the bat on the shoulder when the elbows drop into the slot and the hands begin to lead (the bat). This is not bat lag. Every bat techniquely "lags" behind the hands in a swing; however, bat lag only occurs when the bat begins to slow the swing down. This happens when it gets outside the axis of rotation (no longer pressed up against the shoulder). This is what, among other things, that Bonds does so well. Notice how close he keeps the bat head to the shoulder until release occurs (which occurs naturally at this point). This is the time when the bat has gone from perpindicular (in relation to the ground) to parallel. This is the first 90 degrees in the rotation of the circular hand path and it creates the THT to borrow Jack's trademark.
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> > Think of it this way. I sit in a chair and begin to spin around in circles. As I put my feet out, the rotation slows, as I pull them back in, I start whipping around again. This is what happens with barrel of the bat during the swing. The tighter we maintain the barrel to our shoulder, the quicker we can get it through the zone. Once the barrel escapes the shoulder, you have bat lag. Now the barrel is slowing the swing in much of the same way as my feet slow my rotation in the chair. Furthermore, once the bat escapes the shoulders here, we no longer have control of the barrel. Try it, press the bat up against the shoulder. You can command it out (to hit the outside pitch) or forward to get to the inside pitch. You can't do that once it's already outside your hands. In addition, you have essentially already committed to a pitch once the bat escapes the "shaft to shoulder" principle. If you can keep it shaft to shoulder, you can decline to swing. Look at Bonds takes, he often takes pitches in this very position.
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> > That to me is bat lag. Feel free to fire away with the comments.
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> I think we're on the same page here. The term that I would use is "drag", for a barrel that is slowing down the swing. "Lag" for me means feeling the barrel conected to the rear shoulder, or back side or as you say, "shaft to shoulder". I always want to feel "lag" in my swing, because it let's me feel the ball deeper into my body. It is when his "lag" occurs that my hands feel extremely fast through the ball. Pujols has said many times, as countless others have that they want to feel fast with their hands. To me fast hands means not controlling the hit or release of the barrel, but rather feeling that the hands have no control in the hit. My hands couldn't be any looser through the ball..."loose hands are fast hands".
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> The reason I bring this up is because most hitter struggle with the inside pitch. For me the only way to handle this pitch is to not feel the barrel come out, but rather tighten the rotation, keep the hands in, and "crank shoulders", there by delaying the hand release. What are some adjustments you've made over the years to keep up with the competition. I'm friends with a player who was Minor League batting champion a few years ago and his enthusiasm for learning (much like yours) is what sets him apart from most. He always wants to get better and never stops working. Hope things are going well. There are good people on this sight and I know I'm speaking for many when I say "Thanks for sharing your thoughts". We may not always agree, but everyone is trying to either get better or teach better.
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.I agree with Coach C about lag. To me it conjures up thoughts of visions of the hands staying back until the torso torques the upper body vs a player grabbing the bat with tight hands and trying to muscle the ball with the upper body. I thought bat lag was good. I thought the term casting meant getting the barrel out of the rotation too quickly. Help?