Posted by: Coach C () on Fri Oct 17 07:06:33 2003

>>> Jack the front shoulder is driven by the hands, whether they go linear or rotational. It's when the front shoulder leads that creates the problems. <<<
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> > > > > > Hi Coach C
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> > > > > > How far would you say the hands move before they start driving the shoulder?
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> > > > > > Jack Mankin
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> > > > > > Sounds like a leading question as it's impossible for the hands to physically drive the shoulders. it's exactly the other way around. get out your kinesiology book. end of discussion. next question?
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> > > > Geez.....thanks Rich.....I got out my kinesiology book and you are exactly right it's impossible. I'm going to read that book further and see how long it takes for me to ruin my swing......I'm guessing first session.
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> > > > The next question for you is this...when you look at Sandman's boy swing....what is right about the swing and what is wrong in your mind.
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> > > > Clearly he is hips, shoulders, hands just like the book says...do you agree?
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> > > > What sound advice would you have for that boy and everyone else participating in the discussion? Feel free to use your book if you want.
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> > > > Coach C
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> > > If you are going to get defensive when your assertions are calmly challenged, you won't last long around here. LOL
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> > I'm still waiting for your advice for the boy.....my guess is you have none......prove me wrong.......I'm still waiting, LOL!
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> > Coach C
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> I'm sure the boy will get fine advice. My mission has, for some time, been to the coaches who think they know more than they do. This of course for the sake of the kids. If you can't explain clearly without vague buzzwords exactly what you think happens in the swing and then back it up with MLB clips of great hitters doing what you describe, then you might want to take some time to re-evaluate...for the sake of the kids.


No sound advice for the boy.....HMMMMMM, oh yeah, hit the bag. Clips are not the issue......the issue is how does one arrive at those positions in the clips. I see the same thing you see in the clips, this we agree on. Every kid I've ever worked with has improved, power/average. Every great hitter I've had the pleasure of knowing has excelled at pepper......a hand game. This is the foundation of a great swing, it builds bat head awareness, how bat angles effect ball flight, how the body get's in the right positions to hit, and how not to hit past the ball. You've avoided the main question repeatedly (Major) and it is my belief that we have different agendas. I am not searching.....I'm saying I get to all of those positions in the clips, have always hit for average and power, etc. Never once did I need to hit a heavy bag (not that there is anything wrong with that), but ultimately it's about making swing changes that impact the player.

For the sake of the kids you impact......I wish you well, and thanks for saving me from myself. You WIN!!!!!

Coach C